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Old 11-20-2017, 11:15 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What do you suggest this country do to do away with our slavery?


I suggest repealing the 16th Amendment to start.
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Old 11-20-2017, 11:17 AM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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Is everybody a slave to you? What do you suggest this country do to do away with our slavery?
Yea, these guys all claim some moral high ground but the reality is it's just about the money.
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Old 11-20-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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It's why I find it so amusing when Americans say "we're free". No, we're not free, just obedient. Too dumb to know otherwise. You can say anything you want in America. If you say something that matters, you better watch out. How's that any different from a country like Russia? Same thing there really.
You are right, its taken many many years of methodical brainwashing and conditioning to have so many obedient, subservient people, who will take the side of a tyrannical govt over their fellow citizen.

I do not agree with it, but I do give them credit for what they have accomplished, its really very clever what they achieved in such a short time.
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Old 11-20-2017, 11:22 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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I suggest repealing the 16th Amendment to start.
So you don't believe we should pay taxes? If not, you need to move away. How else will our infrastructure survive? I already know a lot of money is wasted and infrastructure is very out dated. If you don't want to pay taxes then you need to move away.
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Old 11-20-2017, 11:22 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Is everybody a slave to you? What do you suggest this country do to do away with our slavery?
Abolish any "law" which is an initiation of force upon the individual. Abolish fiat currency, usury, and partial reserve banking. Abolish any "tax" which is not a set fee for services rendered and received. Eliminate "citizen" status and return the people to personhood, i.e. Sovereigns. Restrict government action to a retaliatory force against aggressors. For a start.
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Old 11-20-2017, 11:24 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Abolish any "law" which is an initiation of force upon the individual. Abolish fiat currency, usury, and partial reserve banking. Abolish any "tax" which is not a set fee for services rendered and received. Eliminate "citizen" status and return the people to personhood, i.e. Sovereigns. Restrict government action to a retaliatory force against aggressors. For a start.
That is not going to happen and doesn't happen anywhere in the world. Now if you are rich enough to buy your own island by all means live like that. It certainly isn't slavery and it is disgusting to even compare it to slavery. I work and I pay taxes but I do not feel enslaved. I feel I am contributing to a civilized society. If I don't want to pay my taxes I should go to jail or leave the country. If I leave the country it would be next to impossible to find a place where there isn't some form of tax or levy to live there.

It sounds like you and BentBow want a free ride.
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Old 11-20-2017, 11:26 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So you don't believe we should pay taxes? If not, you need to move away. How else will our infrastructure survive? I already know a lot of money is wasted and infrastructure is very out dated. If you don't want to pay taxes then you need to move away.


You asked how to get us all released from bondage to government.
The 16th Amendment is what places you in bondage.
People paid taxes, before the 16th Amendment and government ran on a limited budget, staying out of our lives personally, which was left to the States to do.

We would not have the BLM harrassing the Bundy's, for not the 16th Amendment.
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Old 11-20-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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You asked how to get us all released from bondage to government.
The 16th Amendment is what places you in bondage.
People paid taxes, before the 16th Amendment and government ran on a limited budget, staying out of our lives personally, which was left to the States to do.

We would not have the BLM harrassing the Bundy's, for not the 16th Amendment.
I asked how to get us released from slavery. You seem to feel you are enslaved. Why don't you feel you need to pay taxes to the government? What makes you special? You want a civilized society, you pay the taxes.
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Old 11-20-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That is not going to happen and doesn't happen anywhere in the world. Now if you are rich enough to buy your own island by all means live like that. It certainly isn't slavery and it is disgusting to even compare it to slavery. I work and I pay taxes but I do not feel enslaved. I feel I am contributing to a civilized society. If I don't want to pay my taxes I should go to jail or leave the country. If I leave the country it would be next to impossible to find a place where there isn't some form of tax or levy to live there.

It sounds like you and BentBow want a free ride.

I take it you did not like the answer to the question asked.

If a free ride means no one including you, has a boot on their throat, then sign me up!
Read the Declaration of Independence sometime.
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Old 11-20-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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That is not going to happen and doesn't happen anywhere in the world. Now if you are rich enough to buy your own island by all means live like that. It certainly isn't slavery and it is disgusting to even compare it to slavery. I work and I pay taxes but I do not feel enslaved. I feel I am contributing to a civilized society. If I don't want to pay my taxes I should go to jail or leave the country. If I leave the country it would be next to impossible to find a place where there isn't some form of tax or levy to live there.

It sounds like you and BentBow want a free ride.
Not even close. Did you read the post?
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