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Old 11-21-2017, 07:00 AM
 
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Maybe maybe not, but certainly not more worthless and vague than yours. That's all you've done in this thread because it fits your pro illegal alien agenda and you have no legitimate argument. You've proven that over and over.
There is nothing vague in noting how the Supreme Court has already ruled.

I completely and 100% support us enforcing our borders. I'll support Trump if he does what he can actually do and go after those who hire illegals.

I do NOT support demanding states do what they are not even required to do and aren't even able to do because I refuse to condemn the federal government.

It's odd that I get call pro-illegal alien when my argument is actually the right wing argument.

 
Old 11-21-2017, 07:03 AM
 
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let the voters decide next year if they want open borders or not. It will be a major issue. Do we restrict access into the country, or allow anyone wanting to enter to come.
Poll after poll shows a wide margin of concern about illegal immigration.


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In U.S., Worry About Illegal Immigration Steady

59% of Americans worry a great deal or a fair amount
That's an eighteen point margin which is huge.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 07:05 AM
 
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The arguments in the Arizona case was that the Arizona law went beyond Federal law... It had nothing to do with enforcing existing federal laws.
The rule of unintended consequences. Yes, Arizona took extreme steps to violate people's rights and the court threw that out. In the ruling they noted that states can NOT enforce immigration law.

It still might be a question if not for the crazy idea that violating people's civil rights are acceptable.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 07:05 AM
 
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The Left fully believes that states can nullify Fed laws. I wonder how they'd feel about a state making a fully automatic machine gun legal to purchase without a background check. I wonder which Federal judge they would be rooting for to slap the state down.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 07:05 AM
 
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There is nothing vague in noting how the Supreme Court has already ruled.
You are citing the Arizona case, yes? That case was about Arizona law premepting Federal law, it had nothing to do with enforcing Federal law.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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let the voters decide next year if they want open borders or not. It will be a major issue. Do we restrict access into the country, or allow anyone wanting to enter to come.
I say we allow the hundreds of millions of poor around the world who want in to come in. We keep our taxes the same and just pull all safety net money from the existing pile. Who cares if citizens on Medicaid get their benefits chopped down to a quarter of what they are. If they don't like it, they can move. Who cares if the funding, per student, in public schools are slashed to the bone, put your kid in private school. Who cares if the ACA takes a 400% rate increase. You can pay the penalty and just skip insurance.

Let's all sacrifice and let everyone in.

Screw our poor and working class. If they get the short end of the stick, they should learn to make more money.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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let the voters decide next year if they want open borders or not. It will be a major issue. Do we restrict access into the country, or allow anyone wanting to enter to come.
This has nothing to do with open borders. Nothing the states have said stop the federal government from enforcing our borders.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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In the ruling they noted that states can NOT enforce immigration law.
Reference?
 
Old 11-21-2017, 07:07 AM
 
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You are citing the Arizona case, yes? That case was about Arizona law premepting Federal law, it had nothing to do with enforcing Federal law.
No, it had to do with violating civil rights. They wanted to simply stop people and have them prove they were here legally just because someone thought they looked like they may be here illegally.

"Show me your papers".
 
Old 11-21-2017, 07:15 AM
 
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It's been said many times but is worth repeating -- these liberal activist judges are over-reaching their authority.

The liberals would've been howling at the moon if a conservative judge put the kabosh on something Obama did.
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