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Old 11-21-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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The government did not create the internet, no more than Al Gore invented it. It was created by a group of men at the Stanford Research Institute back in 1968 doing follow up research on Leonard Kleinrock paper titled "Information Flow in Large Communication Nets" back in 1961. The first wide area exchange was called Arpanet and not the internet. The military picked this up and through DARPA refined this idea into what we call the internet. This concept would have been developed regardless of the government intervention.


sure..i mean it's not if only the pesky government hadn't gotten involved and created the internet the private sector would have eventually...but I thought the private sector is always better? Why did the government do it here?
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:13 AM
 
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Wrong.. the Pentagon envisioned ARPANET, but thats not what is used today for the internet, the current internet originated using technology created by Zerox, in order to share copiers, which originated an ethernet, while Vincent Cerf and Robert Kahn invented the use of TCP/IP protocol which is currently used as the backbone of our current internet.

Government did use IP's but they needed to get out of the way in order for the private sector to make it what we use today.

Ironic given you just started discussing the internet again...


actually no...




and for the second point, you still don't seem to grasp the context of the discussion. It's ok, you'll get there eventually...


https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...-the-internet/
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Ugh...science BAD!

--- voices in Trump's head
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:27 AM
 
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sure..i mean it's not if only the pesky government hadn't gotten involved and created the internet the private sector would have eventually...but I thought the private sector is always better? Why did the government do it here?
They didnt...
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actually no...
Actually yes.. ARPANET is not the backbone of the internet..
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:38 AM
 
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The fact that a lot of people did not realize this office existed does not make it any less important. On the other hand it is EXTREMELY important for the President to be continuously aware of advances in science, as this is absolutely integral to the national defense. You can find dozens of examples - like the Manhattan project. It was a very close call for the USA that we managed to get the A-bomb developed and deployed before Germany. The only way that happened was through the physicists that advised Roosevelt and Truman.
Actually, the presidents advisors had pooh-poohed that a bomb could be made from it and it took outside private physicists to draft the warning letter and then find a way to get access to the president so they'd be heard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einste..._letter#Origin

Lastly, it was not a close call.

You're merely revising actual history through gross partisanship to support your current political views on the topic.

Tell you what? How about that Human Genome project? How did that one work out?
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Brawndo-Thirst-Mutilator-Nation
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Yeah, a country that was supposed to transition to the metric-system back before the start of the 1976 olympics, Trump didn't do that.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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This is to be expected.

Dummies hate science.

tRump and his followers hate science.

Therefor, tRump and his followers...

... well, you know.

Are you calling a large majority of people on here dummies?
Wow. Easy to hide behind a keyboard for you is it and be so rude
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:16 PM
 
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They didnt...

Actually yes.. ARPANET is not the backbone of the internet..


so you just double down on your own opinions and ignore the evidence that supports the contrary...got it...
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:44 PM
 
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so you just double down on your own opinions and ignore the evidence that supports the contrary...got it...
https://www.thoughtco.com/arpanet-th...ternet-4072558

However, Charles M. Herzfeld, the former director of ARPA, claimed that ARPAnet was not created due to military needs, but rather “came out of our frustration that there were only a limited number of large, powerful research computers in the country and that many research investigators who should have access were geographically separated from them," he was quoted as saying.

Four computers were the first connected in the original ARPAnet.


NSFnet (National Science Foundation Network). NSFnet first linked together the five national supercomputer centers, then every major university.

Over time, it started to replace the slower ARPAnet, which was finally shutdown in 1990. NSFnet formed the backbone of what we call the Internet today.


lets see.. who should i believe.. the director of ARPA, or someone who once heard that Al Gore invented the internet and wants to continue that lie decades later...
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking If the shoe fits, etc...

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Are you calling a large majority of people on here dummies?
Of course not!

Just the wingnuts.

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Wow. Easy to hide behind a keyboard for you is it and be so rude
SO sensitive.

Ya gotta admit the internet is so much more convenient than going door to door with a written statement.

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