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Old 12-01-2017, 01:36 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What a load of guano.

Cooperation is not ceding one's rights. And the day the citizenry decide what they should and shouldn't have to do in law enforcement interactions, we are in trouble, indeed.

BTW, "getting beaten" is a great deflection, but isn't the issue. The issue is clear: Cops might ask someone to do something they dont think they should have to do--like put their hands behind their backs to be cuffed.

Really? Tell it to the judge.
Of course it is when law enforcement doesnt have the right to do something. lol Do you actually think law enforcement is always correct when they ask for ID or do pat downs or car searches?

And it's not about think they don't have to, it's legally know they don't have too.
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Old 12-01-2017, 01:41 AM
 
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What a load of guano.

Cooperation is not ceding one's rights. And the day the citizenry decide what they should and shouldn't have to do in law enforcement interactions, we are in trouble, indeed.

BTW, "getting beaten" is a great deflection, but isn't the issue. The issue is clear: Cops might ask someone to do something they dont think they should have to do--like put their hands behind their backs to be cuffed.

Really? Tell it to the judge.
When someone, anyone wants to argue honestly, I will continue. You don't get to spin what is being said into something else and pretend you are making a legitimate point.

They sometimes demand you do things you DO NOT have to do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.38557b402151

She is going to be a wealthy young lady.
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Old 12-01-2017, 03:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Carrying a knife and walking away from them.

Stop already. Do you really think if it was as innocent as you'd like to believe that there would have been a major cover-up from the cops who were on the scene all the way up to the Mayor's office???

But I don't think you live in Chicago since you have to rely on Wikipedia.
What evidence do you have for a cover up?
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:03 AM
 
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What evidence do you have for a cover up?
Three Chicago police officers charged with conspiring to cover up Laquan McDonald shooting

“The indictment makes clear that these defendants did more than merely obey an unofficial ‘code of silence,’ rather it alleges that they lied about what occurred to prevent independent criminal investigators from learning the truth,” Patricia Brown Holmes, the special prosecutor, said in a statement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4869eaec9f01
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Three Chicago police officers charged with conspiring to cover up Laquan McDonald shooting

“The indictment makes clear that these defendants did more than merely obey an unofficial ‘code of silence,’ rather it alleges that they lied about what occurred to prevent independent criminal investigators from learning the truth,” Patricia Brown Holmes, the special prosecutor, said in a statement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4869eaec9f01
Either way, using this as an example for cops may shoot you even if you comply is dishonest. Most of us won't be in the middle of the street, holding a knife, on drugs, and have a rap sheet. Most of our encounters will be if you're being pulled over or if you personally called them in the first place. Whether the officers were right or wrong in this incident is irrelevant to most people on this forum.
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:34 AM
 
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Either way, using this as an example for cops may shoot you even if you comply is dishonest. Most of us won't be in the middle of the street, holding a knife, on drugs, and have a rap sheet. Most of our encounters will be if you're being pulled over or if you personally called them in the first place. Whether the officers were right or wrong in this incident is irrelevant to most people on this forum.
Whether the police are right or wrong is irrelevant to most people it seems.

This isn't the best example of what was being asked but it is a good example of how the police have often lied to cover for each other. It's so ingrained that they still do it even though they know the incident is being recorded.
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Old 12-01-2017, 06:44 AM
 
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Whether the police are right or wrong is irrelevant to most people it seems.

This isn't the best example of what was being asked but it is a good example of how the police have often lied to cover for each other. It's so ingrained that they still do it even though they know the incident is being recorded.
I agree, and those SOBs should have the book thrown at them.
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Old 12-01-2017, 07:26 AM
 
Location: The South
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This link is about a guy that didn't do what the officer said. Its rather funny.

Florida cop says man who shot him will need K-Y Jelly in prison | Miami Herald
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Old 12-01-2017, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Whether the police are right or wrong is irrelevant to most people it seems.

This isn't the best example of what was being asked but it is a good example of how the police have often lied to cover for each other. It's so ingrained that they still do it even though they know the incident is being recorded.
This isn't even an example of that. It's an example of one department by a few officers.
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Old 12-01-2017, 01:53 PM
 
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This isn't even an example of that. It's an example of one department by a few officers.
Many cases have been posted where they have lied to cover for each other.
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