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Old 11-21-2017, 12:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Drewjdeg View Post
$2000 cash at a Walmart. Good grief, I hope you thanked the manager and apologized to everyone in line behind you.
The non douche move would be to go to several walmarts to spread it out. I have a problem with the narative of if I dont follow 100% of the expected steps I deserve a beating.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:13 PM
 
Location: The South
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This past Sunday night, I wanted to buy a particular item from a local farmer. I went and met up with him and looked at the item thoroughly. I couldn't wait to buy it. Unfortunately, there were 3 other guys who wanted to buy it and the farmer only wanted cash. No check.

Where to get $2000 cash on a Sunday night? I was going to wait till the next day when my bank opens. But the farmer said whoever that could get there first he would sell to. So, I came up with a way to get $2000 cash.

I went to walmart and did some grocery shopping. Then I checked out each item at a time getting cash back each time. The limit for cashback is $100. So, 20 items would get me $2000 cash back.

$900 in, I was surrounded by walmart security and the local PD. They asked me for my ID and what I was doing. I gave them my ID, debit card, credit card, and business card. I then explained why I was doing what I was doing and that I completely understood why they were suspicious. They ran a check on me. Everything checked out. And I went ahead and continued until I had my $2000. Walked out to my car with my grocery and a lot of cash. I waved at the police indicating that I was leaving, and they waved back at me. And that was that.

My point of the story is this. I was 100% cooperative and 100% calm. They wanted to see my ID? They can have it. They wanted to see my cards, they can have it. They wanted to know what I was doing, I calmly told them everything. I even showed them the ad for the item I wanted to buy on my phone.

You know those high profile cases of people getting tased, beaten, or even shot by the police? If you watch the videos, I'm not saying in all cases but I dare say in most cases the victims were very rude, very confrontational, and acted like they were on a crusade. They always screamed things like "why do you want my ID? What are you charging me with?" Then there were the annoying people with loud music and refused to turn it down when the cop asked them to.

In my case, I was 100% suspicious. And no, I'm not white. I'm not a dick to the police. I follow the rules, sometimes creatively. And when I do something I know could be viewed as suspicious, I would cooperate 100% to clear up any misunderstanding.

If you don't want to be beaten, tased, or shot by the police, just cooperate. Don't be a dick about it. Just give them your ID and whatever information they ask for. I'm not saying this willt allow you to survive 100% of the police encounters. But it will greatly increase your chances.
Simple rules when dealing with law enforcement.
Yes Sir, No Sir, How high should I jump?
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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No, I'm not going to tell you what I bought, but it was certainly worth the effort
What was the point of this story anyway? It sounds like drug deal.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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Asking what you are doing or to see ID or check to see if a debit/credit card in your possession is yours is not in violation of the 4th amendment. In this situation yes I would be fine showing an officer an ID and explaining what I'm doing. I have to show ID to lots of people for lots of things. It does not hurt my feelings.
If you actually talking about an illegal search and/or seizure, that's a different story.
It is fine to do what you want to do. An officer can only require you I.D. yourself if he has a valid reason to. Buying groceries is not a valid reason even in an odd manner such as this.

In fact, the OP isn't even required to have an I.D. on them. Wal Mart could then refuse to do business with you but that is a separate issue.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:23 PM
 
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I think this country is a mess because so many people won't just be polite to a cop.
One can refuse to cede your civil rights in a polite manner. It would be the thing to do.

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Too many times I've seen videos where the driver or passenger start the video before the cop even makes it up to the window, knowing they are gonna act like a complete ass and make things harder for themselves, and then post it as if it's the cop's fault they acted like clowns. Yelling, cussing, calling the cops "pigs", waving their arms around, and ratcheting up the level of tension.

I absolutely stand by anyone who truly was polite but still got mistreated, but not these fools that do it purposefully.
I've seen a lot of video's and I've never seen one where the one's doing the video is the one to start off in an obnoxious manner as you state. I've seen many where people simply say "no". They are allowed to.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:24 PM
 
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Simple rules when dealing with law enforcement.
Yes Sir, No Sir, How high should I jump?
Some people seem to think that being polite to a cop means you are giving up your constitutional rights. I have been pulled over lots of times, had my car searched once and always kept my cool. And yes I am white.

It also helps if you stay out of trouble. A lot of these things escalate when someone has a warrant or a long rap sheet.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:27 PM
 
Location: los angeles county
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Some people would raise a stink, because they can't understand how suspicious they look, and they can't understand that what the police do is part of their job description.

99.999% of walmart shoppers are not going in there to cash out $2000.


This race issue is blown out of proportion. Tons of non-blacks get manhandled by the police, but they're never as widely reported by MSM as black cases are.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Some people seem to think that being polite to a cop means you are giving up your constitutional rights. I have been pulled over lots of times, had my car searched once and always kept my cool. And yes I am white.

It also helps if you stay out of trouble. A lot of these things escalate when someone has a warrant or a long rap sheet.
An or in possession of something illegal.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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Some people seem to think that being polite to a cop means you are giving up your constitutional rights. I have been pulled over lots of times, had my car searched once and always kept my cool. And yes I am white.

It also helps if you stay out of trouble. A lot of these things escalate when someone has a warrant or a long rap sheet.
I always managed to be on my merry way following those rules.

Twice, when I was in college, I had my car searched.

Three times as a 30-something, when I had to cut through a certain neighborhood, I've had my car searched.

Annoying, but I went home.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Great fictional story!
yeah, and I wouldn't have left out the part where the "farmer" was selling me a pound of ganja
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