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Old 11-21-2017, 09:18 AM
 
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This past Sunday night, I wanted to buy a particular item from a local farmer. I went and met up with him and looked at the item thoroughly. I couldn't wait to buy it. Unfortunately, there were 3 other guys who wanted to buy it and the farmer only wanted cash. No check.

Where to get $2000 cash on a Sunday night? I was going to wait till the next day when my bank opens. But the farmer said whoever that could get there first he would sell to. So, I came up with a way to get $2000 cash.

I went to walmart and did some grocery shopping. Then I checked out each item at a time getting cash back each time. The limit for cashback is $100. So, 20 items would get me $2000 cash back.

$900 in, I was surrounded by walmart security and the local PD. They asked me for my ID and what I was doing. I gave them my ID, debit card, credit card, and business card. I then explained why I was doing what I was doing and that I completely understood why they were suspicious. They ran a check on me. Everything checked out. And I went ahead and continued until I had my $2000. Walked out to my car with my grocery and a lot of cash. I waved at the police indicating that I was leaving, and they waved back at me. And that was that.

My point of the story is this. I was 100% cooperative and 100% calm. They wanted to see my ID? They can have it. They wanted to see my cards, they can have it. They wanted to know what I was doing, I calmly told them everything. I even showed them the ad for the item I wanted to buy on my phone.

You know those high profile cases of people getting tased, beaten, or even shot by the police? If you watch the videos, I'm not saying in all cases but I dare say in most cases the victims were very rude, very confrontational, and acted like they were on a crusade. They always screamed things like "why do you want my ID? What are you charging me with?" Then there were the annoying people with loud music and refused to turn it down when the cop asked them to.

In my case, I was 100% suspicious. And no, I'm not white. I'm not a dick to the police. I follow the rules, sometimes creatively. And when I do something I know could be viewed as suspicious, I would cooperate 100% to clear up any misunderstanding.

If you don't want to be beaten, tased, or shot by the police, just cooperate. Don't be a dick about it. Just give them your ID and whatever information they ask for. I'm not saying this will allow you to survive 100% of the police encounters. But it will greatly increase your chances.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:22 AM
 
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Good for you. To argue that you should cede your civil rights to keep from getting beat or killed is B.S. though.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:25 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Good for you. To argue that you should cede your civil rights to keep from getting beat or killed is B.S. though.
This. None of their business but comes under "not worth the fight"

You were lucky they did not confiscate your money. Kudos to whatever police department for not being thieves.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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Good for you. To argue that you should cede your civil rights to keep from getting beat or killed is B.S. though.
which civil rights were ceded by the OP?
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:27 AM
 
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This past Sunday night, I wanted to buy a particular item from a local farmer. I went and met up with him and looked at the item thoroughly. I couldn't wait to buy it. Unfortunately, there were 3 other guys who wanted to buy it and the farmer only wanted cash. No check.

Where to get $2000 cash on a Sunday night? I was going to wait till the next day when my bank opens. But the farmer said whoever that could get there first he would sell to. So, I came up with a way to get $2000 cash.

I went to walmart and did some grocery shopping. Then I checked out each item at a time getting cash back each time. The limit for cashback is $100. So, 20 items would get me $2000 cash back.

$900 in, I was surrounded by walmart security and the local PD. They asked me for my ID and what I was doing. I gave them my ID, debit card, credit card, and business card. I then explained why I was doing what I was doing and that I completely understood why they were suspicious. They ran a check on me. Everything checked out. And I went ahead and continued until I had my $2000. Walked out to my car with my grocery and a lot of cash. I waved at the police indicating that I was leaving, and they waved back at me. And that was that.

My point of the story is this. I was 100% cooperative and 100% calm. They wanted to see my ID? They can have it. They wanted to see my cards, they can have it. They wanted to know what I was doing, I calmly told them everything. I even showed them the ad for the item I wanted to buy on my phone.

You know those high profile cases of people getting tased, beaten, or even shot by the police? If you watch the videos, I'm not saying in all cases but I dare say in most cases the victims were very rude, very confrontational, and acted like they were on a crusade. They always screamed things like "why do you want my ID? What are you charging me with?" Then there were the annoying people with loud music and refused to turn it down when the cop asked them to.

In my case, I was 100% suspicious. And no, I'm not white. I'm not a dick to the police. I follow the rules, sometimes creatively. And when I do something I know could be viewed as suspicious, I would cooperate 100% to clear up any misunderstanding.

If you don't want to be beaten, tased, or shot by the police, just cooperate. Don't be a dick about it. Just give them your ID and whatever information they ask for. I'm not saying this will allow you to survive 100% of the police encounters. But it will greatly increase your chances.
Great fictional story!
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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If you don't want to be beaten, tased, or shot by the police, just cooperate.
Its really that simple.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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Good for you. To argue that you should cede your civil rights to keep from getting beat or killed is B.S. though.
Can you tell me which civil rights I ceded to them?
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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which civil rights were ceded by the OP?
They weren't, you missed his point entirely.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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which civil rights were ceded by the OP?
I didn't argue they were. The OP argued one should cede them if they do not want beat or killed.

If you don't want to be beaten, tased, or shot by the police, just cooperate.

If they are demanding that you do something you do not have to do, you should not simply have to cooperate to keep from getting beat or killed.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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$2000 cash at a Walmart. Good grief, I hope you thanked the manager and apologized to everyone in line behind you.
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