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Old 11-22-2017, 12:25 AM
 
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Its a simple solution. Put the offending students in special schools for troubled youths. They have them, there's one in Morgantown Pa. The parents would have to pay for the tuition. If they couldn't pay the state could arrange to take their future yearly tax refund to at least cover some of it or garnish a small portion of their wages or welfare or SSI. And they could also arrange to take that students future tax refund check until the costs are paid. Ouch.
When they see money being taken away to control an out of control kid, they'll take education seriously. And that's the reason why most failing students fail.... the parents don't care about their kids. They don't discipline them, they don't put emphasis on them getting educated, they don't care.
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Old 11-22-2017, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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I think we saw some of this recently with the basketball player who was arrested for shoplifting in China. Can you imagine saying your child was only shoplifting? Sounds like someone from a third world country.
Lavar Ball might be insane, but to call him a bad parent is ridiculous. He made his kids successful before they even left high school, I haven't seen any parent do that before who wasn't loaded beforehand.
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Old 11-22-2017, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Clown School
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I don't.

Many, not all, but many single mothers are single mothers because they chose a mate poorly.

They looked for height, swag, muscles, social connections, or worse.

What do women like to say when a man ends up fleeced by a gold digger? "Ha ha! HE was thinking with his little head!"

There is no such societal-approved finger wagging at women who do the same, and there ought to be.
No one's disputing that they chose mates poorly, but that doesn't absolve the father for being a deadbeat.

At least the mother is taking responsibility by raising the kid on her own, whereas the man is usually off having fun without a care in the world.

(This is the typical situation - exceptions obviously exist)

My SIL is a single mother...she runs herself ragged taking care of her special needs son who the "father" abandoned while engaged, near the third trimester of her pregnancy (which he was initially excited about). He decided that he really wasn't about that "picket fence life", and abruptly abandoned her.

I feel bad for her. She does the best she can, but my husband's extended family.... man, can they be vultures at times. Constantly belittling her for being a single mother, saying she wasn't "worthy" of keeping a man. Yep...I've witnessed this exchange multiple times at their family get-togethers. If my husband wasn't so against "rocking the boat", I'd (verbally) tear them a new one.

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Old 11-22-2017, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Who are the parents? They need to be shamed in meetings with the school board. The children are obviously learning these behaviors at home, where they witness cussing, punching, spitting, etc. If a woman (or man) doesn't care enough about themselves to leave an abusive situation, at least care enough about the child to get them out of that home.
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Old 11-22-2017, 02:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I always find the blame on single mothers baffling...
You're the only one blaming them here. Why would people blame the single mom?

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I think people who do that have loved Little House on the Prairie too much. I don't think unruly children will be cured by their pops taking them out fishing.
It's not about taking them out fishing. It's about common sense and how 2 parents take care of kids better than one. What part of that don't you get?
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Old 11-22-2017, 03:13 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I don't.

Many, not all, but many single mothers are single mothers because they chose a mate poorly.

They looked for height, swag, muscles, social connections, or worse.

What do women like to say when a man ends up fleeced by a gold digger? "Ha ha! HE was thinking with his little head!"

There is no such societal-approved finger wagging at women who do the same, and there ought to be.
Very much true here. A guy can split but the courts will make life hell forever if he doesn't submit. Where is the guy's choice on the kid's future if they split or don't marry? None and ....more none. Just pay up sucker.

There is no bargaining table for a guy in this situation.
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Old 11-22-2017, 03:19 AM
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Location: The Haunted Mansion
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In the past couple of years I toyed with the idea of being a substitute teacher. For many reasons stated already, I changed my mind.
I am a retired teacher, now substituting. Lots of middle school/some high school. My experience has been overall pleasant.
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Old 11-22-2017, 03:38 AM
 
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71% of births in Iceland are to single mothers and it is one of the safest places in the world.

It also operates within a strong Nordic system of social welfare yet it has one of the lowest fertility rates in the world.

The poorest countries, with no safety net/ welfare, have the highest fertility rates.
We donít live in Iceland.
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Old 11-22-2017, 03:41 AM
 
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Can't blame them, but I wonder what is the demographic makeup of Philly schools?
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Old 11-22-2017, 03:49 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Can't blame them, but I wonder what is the demographic makeup of Philly schools?
It's Harrisburg, not Philadelphia.

64% Black, 26% Hispanic, 3.5% White according to the school system's required filings. 23% are identified as SPED. 78% are receiving FARM.

I'd link it but it's a PDF file.
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