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Old 11-22-2017, 08:07 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Seriously dude, you need to move away from Oklahoma. Youíll be much happier. But have a happy Thanksgiving with your family. Iím sure they love you no matter what. They just need to accept that God makes people the way they are, and any God that would punish them for it isnít a loving God. But Iíve had my experience with fundamentalists, so I know how they are.
I have a lot of family in Oklahoma and I feel his pain. No alcohol at any of the holiday gatherings which is when it is needed most.

This is my mother's side of the family. She has said she will only return when somebody dies. Sad.

 
Old 11-22-2017, 08:32 PM
 
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I have a lot of family in Oklahoma and I feel his pain. No alcohol at any of the holiday gatherings which is when it is needed most.

This is my mother's side of the family. She has said she will only return when somebody dies. Sad.
They still sell low point beer.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 08:40 PM
 
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I stopped reading after "GQ says..."
 
Old 11-22-2017, 08:49 PM
 
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I had a similar conversation a few days ago with co-workers.

If you cannot respect and love your close family enough to just let things slide then it makes me sad.

I have some very religious, I have some hard core atheists.

I have some that believe miller light is less filling, others think it just tastes great.

I even have some relatives that are Packers fans.

Can't we just be nice and civil to one another and appreciate that not everyone thinks like us or has the same values or interests?

I see a profoundly disturbing set of viewpoints on this forum....well, not so much the viewpoints but the absolute 100% faith that they are right, they are the force of good and everyone else is Hitler or the devil etc.

I can only hope you're not that obnoxious and nuts when dealing with family because I hear about that at work as well and just shake my head.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 09:06 PM
 
Location: City of Atlanta
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And how has your world changed since Trump became president?
That's not the point. The point is supporting someone who has behaved like Trump is a moral failing. And as a straight white man, my personal world hasn't changed, but my very privileged experience isn't the same as those not in my demographic.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Im looking forward to tomorrow. I have some rich cousins in Scottsdale, AZ who invited me over. It will be a refreshing reprive from the maga ***t at my house. These cousins of mine are mega wealthy, very educated, and pretty liberal. If only I could always be around these types.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 09:22 PM
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That's not the point. The point is supporting someone who has behaved like Trump is a moral failing. And as a straight white man, my personal world hasn't changed, but my very privileged experience isn't the same as those not in my demographic.
Trump hasn't behaved any worse than Hillary has, and you voted for her. (and
I'm only conceding Trump is as bad as Hillary for the sake of the argument)

And please don't answer me with a laundry list of Trump's supposed moral failings. I've seen lists of Hillary's moral failings that are at least as long and at least as damning.

And don't give me the "well this isn't about Hillary" line. You are presenting your argument as if anyone who voted for Trump has supported a unique level of immorality. Remember who your side offered up as the alternative.

Ahh but you're a pox on both their houses type now. Hillary's not your horse, is she? Fine then, pox both houses, but that's not what you're doing here. You are accusing people who voted for one particular candidate and only that particular candidate of having a moral failing. You're not even just accusing the candidate of having this moral failing, you're accusing anyone who voted for him of having it. Think about that for a minute.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 09:33 PM
 
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Everyone has something to be thankful for.
Yeah, but with this tax bill looming, it's very unsettling for the middle class. Republicans think they are doing a great thing for us. But if you really understand what's in the bill, the middle class pretty much gets screwed while corporations prosper even more. They are taking away tax deductions for teachers and students who really need it.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 09:42 PM
 
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I had a similar conversation a few days ago with co-workers.

If you cannot respect and love your close family enough to just let things slide then it makes me sad.

I have some very religious, I have some hard core atheists.

I have some that believe miller light is less filling, others think it just tastes great.

I even have some relatives that are Packers fans.

Can't we just be nice and civil to one another and appreciate that not everyone thinks like us or has the same values or interests?

I see a profoundly disturbing set of viewpoints on this forum....well, not so much the viewpoints but the absolute 100% faith that they are right, they are the force of good and everyone else is Hitler or the devil etc.

I can only hope you're not that obnoxious and nuts when dealing with family because I hear about that at work as well and just shake my head.
All true. Wanted to bold the part above as this is a problem I see. As an infrequent poster to CD for two years but a regular reader I can say the P/OC side of CD SCREAMS all of this to me.

Some of us are kind of CD "orphans" as we started posting about the Weinstein issue in different areas and that subject was moved here. There were non combative threads prior. Definitely not with this level of vitriol. Though there are tons of cool posters here, if some regulars have gotten "used" to this I can just say with a bit of outside objectivity, it's bizarre and disturbing to say the least. JMHO
 
Old 11-22-2017, 09:50 PM
 
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That's not the point. The point is supporting someone who has behaved like Trump is a moral failing. And as a straight white man, my personal world hasn't changed, but my very privileged experience isn't the same as those not in my demographic.
I don't support (and didn't vote for) either one of them, but some people feel about Hillary the way you feel about Trump.

I could see your reaction to that being 'But I'm right, and those people are wrong, and they are idiots'.

If so, that would be your opinion...not a fact.
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