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Old 11-22-2017, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Consider this, 32 years prior to AL Gore running, Republicans nominated a person who help found affirmative action policy. 32 years later, Democrats nominated the son of a man who filibustered civil rights act of 1964.

Yet liberals say it is likely white racists are mostly Republican voters now.
Al gore was in 2000, Nixon was in 1968, if you are making that argument, isnt the end all to this discussion that Democrats nominated a black man in 2008 ???????

IN that same logic, why would racist white supremacist be be part of a party that nominated a black man ?
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:29 PM
 
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This is true and a valid point. Except of course a candidate does control whether or not they denounce and repudiate such an endorsement.

Not to mention that the fact remains that he shared a policy position with the KKK and endorsement or not, that is still problematic.
you mean the KKK taylored their position to match that of moore. in the end, i you were running for public office, and someone, or some entity that you disagreed with endorsed you as a candidate, why would you give your opposition a political ad fodder just so you could advertise the fact that someone you dont agree with endorsed you for public office? why even acknowledge them at all?

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it seems that it all boils down to whether the people of Alabama are comfortable with a 32 year old man hanging with their 14 yr old daughter.

It appears that many of them are and they'll go to any measure to defend that.
actually i think the people of alabama are seeing through the allegations against moore, and rejecting them. did it ever occur to you that moore just might be innocent of the allegations against him?
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Al gore was in 2000, Nixon was in 1968, if you are making that argument, isnt the end all to this discussion that Democrats nominated a black man in 2008 ???????

IN that same logic, why would racist white supremacist be be part of a party that nominated a black man ?
I don't know, why didn't Robert Byrd leave when Obama won.

Republicans in SC have elected as many black senators as Democratic party has nationwide, Tim Scott.

GOP also has nominated the first or 2nd black supreme court justice, which was viciously opposed by Democrats.

Why did the leader of the Confederate rally in Charlottesville vote for Obama?
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Nixon never lied about his plans on civil rights though. He forced ALabama to allow black students to enroll in colleges in opposition to Democrat George Wallace.

I could assert that Democrats only pretend care about civil rights now, after they were defeated on the issue by the GOP.

Accusations of pandering are a two way street.
1. Johnson was President when George Wallace stood in the school door

2. A Democrat introduced the civil rights act and the Voting rights act, and a majority Democratic congress passed both with the majority vote of Democrats in congress, and a Democratic President signed it.

Why are you trying to argue that Republicans are responsible for either ? You could have easily said "a majority of republicans supported it", but no, you took it a step further and made it a lie.
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Republicans pushed for civil rights legislation from the Civil War through the 1960s. Democrats opposed it.

LBJ was a racist and had originally opposed civil rights. He changed his mind only when he saw it wasn't a winner for Democrats anymore. Obviously black people were already voting for Democrats, starting with FDR decades earlier, so LBJ understood it made sense for Democratic party to give up the segregation stuff.

I don't think LBJ and Democrats would have folded on civil rights in 1960s if majority of blacks were not voting for Democrat party.

That is the amazing thing about Democratic party, they went 4 decades of winning majority of black vote before it gave up on segregation. They were screwing over their own voters.
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:37 PM
 
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Republicans pushed for civil rights legislation from the Civil War through the 1960s. Democrats opposed it.

LBJ was a racist and had originally opposed civil rights. He changed his mind only when he saw it wasn't a winner for Democrats anymore.
If you have to go back to 1800's to prove your party isn't racist, then it might be racist.
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I don't know, why didn't Robert Byrd leave when Obama won.

Republicans in SC have elected as many black senators as Democratic party has nationwide, Tim Scott.
1. False logic

elected = won

won =/= nominated.

2. Kamala Harris is black, so its actually 2 to 1.

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GOP also has nominated the first or 2nd black supreme court justice, which was viciously opposed by Democrats.

Why did the leader of the Confederate rally in Charlottesville vote for Obama?[
Thurgood Marshall was nominated by LBJ, and was affirmed 69-11

How is it that you get so much wrong ????? at this point im assuming you are just pulling my leg.
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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If you have to go back to 1800's to prove your party isn't racist, then it might be racist.
I'm not saying the GOP is racist now. You surely haven't proven that it is.

Makes more sense most white racists are Democrats given that is the history of racism in this country, and Democrats still have same class envy politics that racists tend to go for.
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Republicans pushed for civil rights legislation from the Civil War through the 1960s. Democrats opposed it.

LBJ was a racist and had originally opposed civil rights. He changed his mind only when he saw it wasn't a winner for Democrats anymore. Obviously black people were already voting for Democrats, starting with FDR decades earlier, so LBJ understood it made sense for Democratic party to give up the segregation stuff.

I don't think LBJ and Democrats would have folded on civil rights in 1960s if majority of blacks were not already voting for Democrat party.
So republicans pushed for a civil rights act that the Democratic President called for, a Democratic congressmen wrote, a Democratic congress passed and a 2nd democratic president signed.


LOL
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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1. False logic

elected = won

won =/= nominated.

2. Kamala Harris is black, so its actually 2 to 1.



Thurgood Marshall was nominated by LBJ, and was affirmed 69-11

How is it that you get so much wrong ????? at this point im assuming you are just pulling my leg.
Democrats win 95 percent of black vote, but a southern republican state has elected half the number of black senators as the Democrat party.

I contend that if more blacks became Republican, there would be more black senators and more black representatives, especially in the south with the large black population.

Three black men have recently run for GOP nomination.

Back during the Republican occupation of the South after the Civil War, black Republicans were elected routinely.
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