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Old 11-22-2017, 11:34 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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The only racists are trumpsters. Trump and his anti Semitic son in law Jared. White supremacist supporters.
Not sure if serious?

Perhaps my sarcasm meter is broken, but Kushner is a Jew. Ivanka married a Jew and Trump has little Jewish grandchildren.

It never made any sense to me that people tried to portray Trump as anti-Semitic and anti-Gay. A guy who grew up in NYC and worked in Manhattan real estate for 50 years, hates gays and Jews? Just never made any sense.
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Old 11-22-2017, 11:55 PM
 
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If racism didn’t exist Donald Trump wound never have been elected.
That was due to the stupidity of the Democrats nominating Hillary as their candidate.
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Old 11-22-2017, 11:57 PM
 
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Not sure if serious?

Perhaps my sarcasm meter is broken, but Kushner is a Jew. Ivanka married a Jew and Trump has little Jewish grandchildren.

It never made any sense to me that people tried to portray Trump as anti-Semitic and anti-Gay. A guy who grew up in NYC and worked in Manhattan real estate for 50 years, hates gays and Jews? Just never made any sense.
Trump doesn't hate Jews, it's Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Blacks, and Arabs he dislikes.
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Old 11-23-2017, 07:22 AM
 
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See. Who says slicing and dicing the electorate via identity politics does not work? Do it enough, then using the same simple catch phrases are as simple as cut and paste.

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Trump doesn't hate Jews, it's Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Blacks, and Arabs he dislikes.
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Old 11-23-2017, 07:44 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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If racism didn’t exist Donald Trump wound never have been elected.
If racism didn’t exist, Obama would never have been elected. Blacks (and liberal whites) came out in droves to vote for him precisely because he was black.
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Old 11-23-2017, 02:11 PM
 
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If racism didn’t exist, Obama would never have been elected. Blacks (and liberal whites) came out in droves to vote for him precisely because he was black.
Only in your bigoted mind. Obama didn’t run on racial fear. Trump did.

Not all Trumpers are white racists, but all white racists are Trumpers.

Without that element of overly racially conscious and resentful whites fueling his base, he would never have been elected.

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Old 11-24-2017, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Only in your bigoted mind. Obama didn’t run on racial fear. Trump did.

Not all Trumpers are white racists, but all white racists are Trumpers.

Without that element of overly racially conscious and resentful whites fueling his base, he would never have been elected.
No claim is made of "racial fear" the claim is that time for a black person trumped time for a woman and then Senator Clinton lost her window of opportunity when the anger over the Iraq War was the driving factor for the election.
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Old 11-24-2017, 08:27 AM
 
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No claim is made of "racial fear" the claim is that time for a black person trumped time for a woman and then Senator Clinton lost her window of opportunity when the anger over the Iraq War was the driving factor for the election.
There is no moral equivalence between the rationale for voting for Barack Obama in 2008 and Donald Trump in 2016.
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Old 11-24-2017, 08:44 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Sweetie, I gave you a link to the video. Why don't you inform yourself? Of course, if you can't stand watching Chris Cuomo I'll understand. Many people feel the same.
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Not sure if serious?

Perhaps my sarcasm meter is broken, but Kushner is a Jew. Ivanka married a Jew and Trump has little Jewish grandchildren.

It never made any sense to me that people tried to portray Trump as anti-Semitic and anti-Gay. A guy who grew up in NYC and worked in Manhattan real estate for 50 years, hates gays and Jews? Just never made any sense.
I guess you guys aren’t used to that posters sense of humor/irony/sarcasm.

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Old 11-24-2017, 01:41 PM
 
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The only racists are trumpsters. Trump and his anti Semitic son in law Jared. White supremacist supporters.
Those who decry racism, using de facto racial complaints that support a racial in-group, demonstrate a moral and logical paradox.

Those who want to see racism ended will stop worrying about the welfare of racial in-groups and instead support dissolution of all de facto racial categories and groups. Those who selectively choose which racial groups are to be protected are the scourge of humanity and its civilization. Protect all or protect none.
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