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Old 11-24-2017, 08:54 PM
 
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Those states are aren't anything to celebrate. Though some nice people live in them, they are mostly rural and lacking in education and marketable skills. Applauding jobs there is humorous. .
Applauding jobs anywhere is smart. I live in Connecticut, and we lost 6,000 jobs last month, and maintain a far above US average unemployment rate. I'd love to see us get the job growth Middle America is getting, as well as the Southeast.

Our one blessing (sar) is people are quitting the workforce, as opposed to being "unemployed".


Connecticut sheds more than 6,000 jobs in October - StamfordAdvocate
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Old 11-24-2017, 08:59 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMU2...de_graphs=true

11,000 new jobs in Wichita Metro since Trump was elected.
From your above source. Month October,

2013- 292.5
2014- 296
2015- 298.9
2016- 298.8
2017- 303

With Wichita, KS one could argue that Trump increased job growth. From Jan to May 2017 job growth was higher than average. But what policies did Trump pass to create this job increase?

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https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMU3...de_graphs=true

20,000 new jobs in Omaha Metro since Trump was elected.
From October,

2013- 483.4
2014- 489.3
2015- 498.7
2016- 502.5
2017- 511.1

2014-2015 job increase- 9.4
2016-2017 job increase- 8.6

Obama had higher job increases than Trump.


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https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMU3...de_graphs=true

6,900 new jobs in Fargo since Trump was elected.

From October,

2013- 136.1
2014- 139.7
2015- 141.6
2016- 143.7
2017- 146.1

2013-2014 job increase- 3.6
2016-2017 job increase- 2.4

Obama had higher job increases than Trump.



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https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMU4...de_graphs=true

24,000 new jobs in Metro Oklahoma City since Trump was elected.
From October,

2013- 615.2
2014- 628.8
2015- 634.2
2016- 633.5
2017- 642.6

2013-2014 job increase- 13.6
2016-2017 job increase- 9.1

Obama had higher job increases than Trump.

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Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, North Dakota sure voted for their best interests when they rushed to the ballots last November to vote in President Trump in a huge, huge, huge landslide in those states.
What laws did Trump pass to raise Wichita, KS job growth from Jan to May 2017?
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:15 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Im still waiting for Trump to live up to his promise to coal miners about getting their high paying jobs back.
The coal corporations give campaign money to republican politicians not the coal miners. And republican Donald Trumps coal policies will increase coal corporation profits (not create high paying jobs.)
https://www.opensecrets.org/industri...2018&ind=E1210

Trump has abolished rules stopping coal corporations from dumping waste in rivers and streams. Now the coal corporations no longer have to pay expensive disposal fees for their coal mining waste.
Donald Trump overturns law preventing companies dumping coal mining debris in streams and rivers | The Independent
Demise of stream rule won

Trump is also pushing back/abolishing safety regulations for coal miners. Trump abolished safety regulations that stop miners from getting black lung, abolished regulations stopping miners from being run over by mining machines, abolished regulations to improve underground coal mine safety, and abolished regulations providing miners refuge alternatives in the event of underground explosions and fires.

Abolishing the above safety regulations greatly reduces workers safety spending for the coal corporations.
Trump dumps and delays key coal-mine safety rules


And Trump could not bring back coal jobs even he wanted to.

"Industry experts say coal mining jobs will continue to be lost, not because of blocked access to coal, but because power plant owners are turning to natural gas." ex.ex.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6b8f2f5e7b33


"There were 220,000 jobs in the industry in 1980. In the decades that followed, as production increased, jobs declined, because technology and automation made it possible to extract more coal with far fewer miners. When production peaked in 2008 before coal plants started closing en masse only 82,000 jobs remained."

"There are now about 65,000 jobs left. That number will continue to fall in the years ahead, as technological advancements continue to displace workers and as cleaner and cheaper forms of energy continue to displace the industry itself."

"The fact is, putting coal miners back to work is no more possible from a business standpoint than putting telegraph operators back to work taking Morse code or putting Eastman Kodak employees back to work manufacturing film rolls."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.051c32057567
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:17 PM
 
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Trump has abolished rules stopping coal corporations from dumping waste in rivers and streams. Now the coal corporations no longer have to pay expensive disposal fees for their coal mining waste.
Donald Trump overturns law preventing companies dumping coal mining debris in streams and rivers | The Independent
Demise of stream rule won

Trump is also pushing back/abolishing safety regulations for coal miners. Trump abolished safety regulations that stop miners from getting black lung, abolished regulations stopping miners from being run over by mining machines, abolished regulations to improve underground coal mine safety, and abolished regulations providing miners refuge alternatives in the event of underground explosions and fires.

Abolishing the above safety regulations greatly reduces workers safety spending for the coal corporations.
Trump dumps and delays key coal-mine safety rules
All of the above under Trump maintain the same regulations and laws as existed during Bill Clinton's tenure.
We simply erased the BO overreach whose goal was to destroy the entire coal industry.
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:32 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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All of the above under Trump maintain the same regulations and laws as existed during Bill Clinton's tenure.
We simply erased the BO overreach whose goal was to destroy the entire coal industry.
Pollution from coal power plants kills at least 7,500 American each year.
Death and Disease from Power Plants - Clean Air Task Force (CATF)

And Obama's coal regulations would not have destroyed the coal industry.
Demise of stream rule won

This is not about keeping coal jobs, its about doing favors for the coal corporations that give republicans campaign money.
https://www.opensecrets.org/industri...2018&ind=E1210

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Old 11-24-2017, 09:33 PM
 
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All of the above under Trump maintain the same regulations and laws as existed during Bill Clinton's tenure.
We simply erased the BO overreach whose goal was to destroy the entire coal industry.
Coal mining jobs are being replaced by clean energy. Why do we want to expose anyone to black lung disease anymore.
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:48 PM
 
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Pollution from coal power plants kills at least 7,500 American each year.
Death and Disease from Power Plants - Clean Air Task Force (CATF)

And Obama's coal regulations would not have destroyed the coal industry.
Demise of stream rule won

This is not about keeping coal jobs, its about doing favors for the coal corporations that give republicans campaign money. (please see post #23.)
Same regs now as during Clinton era.

This industry is also responsible for an enormous quantity of well paying jobs, both direct and via suppliers.
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Old 11-24-2017, 10:26 PM
 
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Same regs now as during Clinton era.

This industry is also responsible for an enormous quantity of well paying jobs, both direct and via suppliers.
And guess why they had well paying jobs....because they were union members. The United Mine Workers of America.
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Old 11-24-2017, 10:40 PM
 
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And guess why they had well paying jobs....because they were union members. The United Mine Workers of America.
So you would then want coal jobs to be thriving. Glad we agree.
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Old 11-24-2017, 10:43 PM
 
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So you would then want coal jobs to be thriving. Glad we agree.
No I don't because there are better alternatives without people dying.
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