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Old 12-23-2017, 02:57 PM
 
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Our highway system is the best in the world. You can drive for four days across this country without a passport without fear.

We have the biggest diversity in cultures, landscape, food and people for a country of our size and global stature.

Go on a road trip from Sea to shining Sea in the big loop up and down each coast. Then tell me if we lack diversity or how Blan America is.
Yup. Isn’t it cool?

So many things we enjoy and consider to be “American” have come from other cultures/races/etc. Food, music, dance, and so on. It can be a bit of a melting pot, sure, but not in the way I think previous posters believe it does, where immigrants have to basically totally integrate and lose their own previous culture. Instead, I think it’s cool where so many contribute ingredients to a rich flavorful stew of awesome experiences.

 
Old 12-23-2017, 03:11 PM
 
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And just to be sure...no, I’m not liberal/a Democrat. Not advocating for illegal immigration. I’m white. Live in a conservative state. Just see the value of embracing diversity here from a lifetime of experiences.
 
Old 12-23-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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So....here’s one you would say. What else?

I mean, really? You must not live in the U.S. if you don't know the following:


About 71 percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians.


Jeans, sneakers, baseball caps, cowboy hats and boots are some items of clothing that are closely associated with Americans. Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, Michael Kors and Victoria Secret are some well-known American brands.


There are a number of foods that are commonly identified as American, such as hamburgers, hot dogs, potato chips, macaroni and cheese, and meat loaf. "As American as apple pie" has come to mean something that is authentically American.


The United States is widely known around the world as a leader in mass media production, including television and movies. According to the U.S. Department of Commerce, the United States comprises one-third of the worldwide media and entertainment industry.


The United States' arts culture extends beyond movies and television shows, though. New York is home to Broadway, and Americans have a rich theatrical history. American folk art is an artistic style and is identified with quilts and other hand-crafted items. American music has many, many styles, including rhythm and blues, jazz, gospel, country and western, bluegrass, rock 'n' roll and hip hop.


The United States is a sports-minded country, with millions of fans who follow football, baseball, basketball and hockey, among other sports.


Many holidays are celebrated only in the United States. Americans celebrate their independence from Britain on July 4. Memorial Day, celebrated on the last Monday in May, honors those who have died in military service. Labor Day, observed on the first Monday in September, celebrates the country's workforce. Thanksgiving, another distinctive American holiday, falls on the fourth Thursday in November and dates back to colonial times to celebrate the harvest. Presidents' Day, marking the birthdays of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, is a federal holiday that occurs on the third Monday in February. The contributions of veterans are honored on Veterans' Day, observed on Nov. 11. The contributions of civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. are remembered on the third Monday in January.
 
Old 12-23-2017, 03:33 PM
 
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I mean, really? You must not live in the U.S. if you don't know the following:


About 71 percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians.


Jeans, sneakers, baseball caps, cowboy hats and boots are some items of clothing that are closely associated with Americans. Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, Michael Kors and Victoria Secret are some well-known American brands.


There are a number of foods that are commonly identified as American, such as hamburgers, hot dogs, potato chips, macaroni and cheese, and meat loaf. "As American as apple pie" has come to mean something that is authentically American.


The United States is widely known around the world as a leader in mass media production, including television and movies. According to the U.S. Department of Commerce, the United States comprises one-third of the worldwide media and entertainment industry.


The United States' arts culture extends beyond movies and television shows, though. New York is home to Broadway, and Americans have a rich theatrical history. American folk art is an artistic style and is identified with quilts and other hand-crafted items. American music has many, many styles, including rhythm and blues, jazz, gospel, country and western, bluegrass, rock 'n' roll and hip hop.


The United States is a sports-minded country, with millions of fans who follow football, baseball, basketball and hockey, among other sports.


Many holidays are celebrated only in the United States. Americans celebrate their independence from Britain on July 4. Memorial Day, celebrated on the last Monday in May, honors those who have died in military service. Labor Day, observed on the first Monday in September, celebrates the country's workforce. Thanksgiving, another distinctive American holiday, falls on the fourth Thursday in November and dates back to colonial times to celebrate the harvest. Presidents' Day, marking the birthdays of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, is a federal holiday that occurs on the third Monday in February. The contributions of veterans are honored on Veterans' Day, observed on Nov. 11. The contributions of civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. are remembered on the third Monday in January.
Adding a link when you copy things is a good idea. Looks like a lot (all?) sources from here: https://www.livescience.com/28945-american-culture.html

Also from that article...bits like
“Because of this, the United States is one of the most culturally diverse countries in the world. Nearly every region of the world has influenced American culture, most notably the English who colonized the country beginning in the early 1600s. U.S. culture has also been shaped by the cultures of Native Americans, Latin Americans, Africans and Asians.“

“Clothing styles vary by social status, region, occupation and climate.”

“The United States is sometimes described as a "melting pot" in which different cultures have contributed their own distinct "flavors" to American culture.”



And yes, have lived in the US for 100% of my life. We have many of the things you pasted because of other cultures, not in spite of them.
 
Old 12-23-2017, 04:00 PM
 
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Adding a link when you copy things is a good idea. Looks like a lot (all?) sources from here: https://www.livescience.com/28945-american-culture.html

Also from that article...bits like
“Because of this, the United States is one of the most culturally diverse countries in the world. Nearly every region of the world has influenced American culture, most notably the English who colonized the country beginning in the early 1600s. U.S. culture has also been shaped by the cultures of Native Americans, Latin Americans, Africans and Asians.“

“Clothing styles vary by social status, region, occupation and climate.”

“The United States is sometimes described as a "melting pot" in which different cultures have contributed their own distinct "flavors" to American culture.”



And yes, have lived in the US for 100% of my life. We have many of the things you pasted because of other cultures, not in spite of them.

The American culture is a melting pot. Try to wrap that around your head instead of insisting that we don't have an identifying culture that came from that melting pot of which I gave several examples. At least there is an American culture of which you questioned many times. Now put it to rest, will you?
 
Old 12-23-2017, 04:12 PM
 
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The American culture is a melting pot. Try to wrap that around your head instead of insisting that we don't have an identifying culture that came from that melting pot of which I gave several examples. At least there is an American culture of which you questioned many times. Now put it to rest, will you?
But you are insisting we have some exact set in stone static culture (where it actually doesn’t fully apply all over, really, if you’ve ever traveled/lived around the country) and anyone new must fully melt in, instead of recognizing that even what you posted has been shaped (and continues to be) by a vast variety of cultures. The article you quoted even said we’re very culturally diverse. Hot dogs came from Germany. Rock n roll was vastly influenced by African Americans. Produce like tomatoes, corn, and potatoes came from South America. Apple pie from England. Etc.

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Old 12-23-2017, 04:19 PM
 
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People of European descent have always been in control of the demographic landscape, once the Native American population was annihilated.

African slave labor became the cornerstone of much of the American economy prior to the Civil War. Much of our railways were built by Chinese hands. Much of our agricultural and domestic labor has always been the manual responsibilty of Mexicans and Africans.

Please! Never ever again mention anything about how hard "your" ancestors worked. All Americans have worked hard to build this country. Many present-day American citizen's ancestors worked the hardest against their own will!

Also, if there is ever an uprising, I'm most certain it will be inspired by the world's greatest idiot, your leader!
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Your definition of genocide would mean that Native, African, and Mexican-Americans have been undergoing genocide for centuries now by the hands WASPs.

That would mean that you guys have been quite successful at reducing population levels of people who don't quite meet your standards.

In terms of intelligence, you'd be surprised to see the number of both African and Mexican students I've seen who have successfully passed state approved AP Calculus classes and subsequent test.
I'm most certain that you and most of your peers would find these tests and classes quite daunting.

Most of these students are of superlative moral character, law-abiding, and are conscientious about their personal responsibilities to both their communities and their state.

You would pale in their shadow...

What do you do (for a living?) to make such radical and sweeping assumptions about who I am and what I do?

I mean, I've given some information out about myself here, but not enough for you to know a lot of what you're accusing/assuming about me.

Regarding some of you innacurate "points" above. A few things:

1. Europeans haven't controlled who enters this country for quite a while now.

2. Again, you have no idea who or what my ancestors have given to this country, aside from my post about them giving their lives to America, of which that is a totally true factual statement. Unlike many of the layabouts that plague certain groups of people, my ancestors - every single one of them for 100+ years - has worked/given their lives to this country to build and make the infrastructure that today is being trampled on by wage-depreciating immigrants and refugees.

3. My state (MN) sent in one of the first brigades to end the CW, and this is the state my ancestors gave everything to. This state also never had slave labor aside from a few scant reports, here and there. Nothing even in the same hemisphere as the "Deep South". No doubt, the Natives here in this State were treated in an unacceptable manner, but we've taken steps to deal with some of that. For example, the Sioux tribe that profits off of the Mystic Lake Casino here are the wealthiest per-capita (I believe) in the entire country. Ask them if they want all us "gringos" out of their land now, considering every single member of their tribe is so filthy rich off of us they couldn't spend it in 100 lifetimes.
 
Old 12-23-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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You would pale in their shadow...
I don't believe that I would.


Have any of them written "model" papers in 300 level political science courses? I have. Have any of them had the highest percentage on a written exam in a college course of 30 students? I have. Have any of them won group awards in a college course? I have.


You are making laughable assumptions about me. What's funny about you is that you don't realize I attend a church every Sunday that is actually quite diverse, with people of all sorts of ethnic/racial backgrounds, and I have love and respect for every one of my friends there.
 
Old 12-23-2017, 06:06 PM
 
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But you are insisting we have some exact set in stone static culture (where it actually doesn’t fully apply all over, really, if you’ve ever traveled/lived around the country) and anyone new must fully melt in, instead of recognizing that even what you posted has been shaped (and continues to be) by a vast variety of cultures. The article you quoted even said we’re very culturally diverse. Hot dogs came from Germany. Rock n roll was vastly influenced by African Americans. Produce like tomatoes, corn, and potatoes came from South America. Apple pie from England. Etc.

Geez, that's what formed the melting pot which formed our identifying American culture. You deny that we even have an identifying American culture and that's simply not true and the description was in my post. We have minority cultures living among us. Their individual cultures are not the identifying American culture by themselves. Are you going to beat this thing to death? If so, welcome to my ignore list. Now move on, will you?
 
Old 12-23-2017, 06:10 PM
 
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I don't believe that I would.


Have any of them written "model" papers in 300 level political science courses? I have. Have any of them had the highest percentage on a written exam in a college course of 30 students? I have. Have any of them won group awards in a college course? I have.


You are making laughable assumptions about me. What's funny about you is that you don't realize I attend a church every Sunday that is actually quite diverse, with people of all sorts of ethnic/racial backgrounds, and I have love and respect for every one of my friends there.

He was trying to elevate minorities above whites. I know there are many successful minorities but I wouldn't say they are anymore intelligent or successful than whites in general. It would be racist to make such a statement.
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