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That's exactly what it is, the same battle that Galileo had to fight. On the one hand you have the Aristotelian thinkers saying "I think for myself," and "I use common sense" who think whatever seems intuitively to be true must be correct. If they stick their nose outside their door and its cold, that does it; we're in for an ice age. Then you have the adherents to the scientific method who say forget what you think must be correct, investigate and go with the results. Who would have predicted that a return to the Dark Ages would be among the opening events of the 21st Century?
Ahh, so this is the disconnect.
Some of you equate science with magic.
It depends, if you call science ignoring divergence in data results, cherry picking data to bolster a hypothesis or amplify and outcome, ignoring, insulting and chastising valid objections to methods applied and a refusal to apply proper due diligence within that research. Then I would say yes, I equate your opinion of science as magic. That or just playing politics, you can pick.
I agree. But I also believe that what's happening was going to happen regardless--whether humans inhabited this planet or not. We don't help with how careless we are, but still.
I agree, even if there is no problem it would improve the quality of life for the Chinese, and others, who have to breathe the filth we put in the air each day
I agree, even if there is no problem it would improve the quality of life for the Chinese, and others, who have to breathe the filth we put in the air each day
I for one am not going to worry about global warming any more than I worried about peak oil in 1982, Y2K, AIDS affecting everybody, Ebola, or the supposed demise of the American economy. Rather than worrying about those things I am going to try to make the most expedicious decisions I can based on economics and my personal goals for the future. (Some of my personal goals is for a better community in which I live--just because the goals are personal doesn't mean that they are all greedy--but some are.
AIDS has not (yet) become a global pandemic with a 90% mortality index because in 198? the GMHC mobilized and awareness put millions of at risk citizens on warning. The ozone layer has not recovered but if Flourocarbons had not been banned outright ~20 years ago it would be gone now. If computer programs had not been re-written they would now be inoperable because of Y2K. It didn't shut down the computing infrastructure because the responsible entities heeded the warning. Ebola? Try drug resistant TB, Streptococcus or drug resistant Salmonella. They are out there. To say that people were wrong about any of these threats because they didn't end the world is to fail to fully acknowledge the power of action. If no one had done anything about any of the crises noted above they would have been catastrophes. Peak Oil is a certainty it is only the when that is in doubt. How can anyone predict with certainty when something like oil will be depleted to critical levels? Global Warming is likewise impossible to predict with certainty.
I won't fault you for failing to alter any of your lifestyle choices but to claim that because other predictions have been wrong gives anyone the emotional ammunition to behave selfishly well that I will at least point out is misguided. Misguided because those predictions were not wrong. The calamities failed to occur because people listened. Not you and I. If it were up to most of you here we'd still be using aerosol cans and freon in refrigerators but when the right people listen all the BS stops and things get done. What we need is for the right people to get it about Climate Change so that it won't be up to people like you and I who can't agree on whether or not it is Warming or Cooling and does it matter.
I agree, even if there is no problem it would improve the quality of life for the Chinese, and others, who have to breathe the filth we put in the air each day
I'm sure you must be aware given the accuracy and intelligence of this post - china is the world's biggest polluter - remember the filth in the sky during the Olympics? Put there by China, not the US.
Since everyone is posting pictures, I figured I would as well (though a little more relevant to the topic).
Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this picture? Would readings be colder or warmer in this case? Another wooden nickle for those who can point out the relevance of this picture in and how it concerns Antarctica. I am sure the self proclaimed intelligent people will have a comment on it, or not, I guess it depends on if their talking point site has prepped them for it.
There is nothing unusual happening in the Bermuda triangle. If you study the data you see that the Bermuda triangle is no more, and no less likely to have disappearances, crashes, shipping accidents, or cloud formations that look like ships or airplanes than anywhere else in the world.
The stuff about the Bermuda triangle is a mis-reading of statistics --- just like the stuff about anthropogenic global warming. It just ain't accurate.
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