If the founders wanted a Christian nation, why doesn't our founding documents say so? (Congress, solution)

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by burdell

You're the one claiming to know the answers to those questions while supporting them with nothing factual. I never claimed to know for sure and you've provided nothing factual showing you do either.

I guess you need to do some digging if you want to refute it.

[boneyard1962]

I think that many forget that there have been cultural changes. 1776 people considered Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran etc. as different religions. All Christian but not the same. Keep in mind how England basically invented their own version of Christianity. No one wanted that for here where the Government would decide how we practiced our faith or what church we belonged to.
How many founding fathers were Buddhists, Taoists, Muslims or Hindu's? How many people living here in 1776 were any thing other than of a Christian or Jewish faith?
No the founding fathers IMO were thinking about freedom to practice the denomination of Christianity that individuals wanted. The separation of church in state also represented their wisdom to keep the government out of church business and the church out of government business.
Not a chance John Henery gave a rats jazz about ensuring the rights of Chinese Buddhists. That day and age was all about converting people to Christianity.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

I guess you need to do some digging if you want to refute it.

I don't need to refute anything. You made the claim, the burden of proof is yours.

[mikebnllnb]

Originally Posted by prospectheightsresident

I wasn't aware that there was a split between Catholics and Baptists about the divinity of Christ.

Not Christ but Mary for sure.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by burdell

I don't need to refute anything. You made the claim, the burden of proof is yours.

I'm pretty sure you claimed some were not referring to a Christian God. It's your claim, not mine.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

I'm pretty sure you claimed some were not referring to a Christian God. It's your claim, not mine.

And I'm 100% sure the only place I made that 'claim' is in your imagination.

[mikebnllnb]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

I'm pretty sure you claimed some were not referring to a Christian God. It's your claim, not mine.

Originally Posted by burdell

And I'm 100% sure the only place I made that 'claim' is in your imagination.

The Harvard debate team really missed out on not recruiting you two.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by mikebnllnb

The Harvard debate team really missed out on not recruiting you two.

Sorry if a discussion in a discussion forum offends you.

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by Jobster

Honestly, what do you think is going to happen to the 99% of people that are replaced by technology and officially unemployeable?

Do you think that those who are capable of making decisions are going to pay a basic income? Do you think that those who are capable of making decisions are going to be altruistic?

Perhaps, if they were true followers of Christianity, but it is unlikely that anyone that elevates to that position strictly abide by the words of Christ.

It is more likely that those in power will be "logical" thinkers such as yourself, and they will logically decide that the population needs to be eliminated.

They will deem that as righteous because they do not believe in Christ's teachings. They have no incentive to turn the other cheek. They are immortal in their minds.

You must think you're special.

Ethics do not exist outside Christianity? That's claiming to be special.

[mikebnllnb]

Originally Posted by burdell

Sorry if a discussion in a discussion forum offends you.

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