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Old 11-28-2017, 02:23 AM
 
Location: London
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Democrats: identity politics

Republicans: war on drugs
Beat me to it.
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Old 11-28-2017, 02:24 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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As if one example by your family somehow means it's a huge deal with conservatives. That's just something you made up.
If you're going to comment on an issue how about you not make a blanket statement based on one personal experience.
I generally stand with the poster you're referring to. For all you know, in most of the state Republican platforms, it makes anti-gay points somewhere.
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Old 11-28-2017, 03:02 AM
 
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LOL, you are a very weird and well out there exception to the rule. A gay Oklahoma state rep and later state senator, Al McAffrey, would tell you the Oklahoma Capitol was often an unpleasant place for an out gay legislator to be from putting up with the rude comments. Maybe it wasn't of much help, either, that he was a Democrat. In the end of his political career, he decided to move up by running for U. S. Rep., but was soundly rejected.
And I'll bet you can't give me a single quote that was rude and anti-gay.
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Old 11-28-2017, 04:17 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Both parties: gerrymandering
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Old 11-28-2017, 04:43 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I generally stand with the poster you're referring to. For all you know, in most of the state Republican platforms, it makes anti-gay points somewhere.
Yet those haven't been broadcast by every national and regional news organization in the country. When we live in an era that reporters make a big deal about what boots and hat the President wears to disaster areas?
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:45 AM
 
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Dems: To stop brainwashing people with talking points
Rep: To stop brainwashing people with talking points

General Public:
To realize how brainwashed you are by the talking points of the party you align with (go team GO!!!! My man is BETTER than yours!!! We got more votes!!! My team WON!!!! Go team GO!!!)

To understand that your vote does not matter because nothing. ever. changes. Different party, same mess. Next election: Change parties, same exact mess. Voting does. not. matter.
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:54 AM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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Only one "issue" needs to be dropped.

Anything that liberal/communist/progressives advocate. As all of them seem to have been dropped on their heads long ago.


CN
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Old 11-28-2017, 07:40 AM
 
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And your family's belief is embodied in the Republican platform? Of course it isn't.

What you have is a personal problem which you blame on a political party. Your family has deeply held beliefs rooted in their religion.
Oh, come on. The Evangelists pay and preach their way into Republican politics just for the sole purpose of limiting gay rights and women's rights. No secret here. Religion shouldn't be a qualifier for the presidency in the first place. Kicking religious ideas out of the White House should be a top priority. People in America can be religious but the government should drop the morality fight based on the Christian religion. We are not a Christian nation. This isn't the middle east.

Once we drop the religious politics, everything else will follow suit. A God only blesses America if you are religious, and that God does not run America. People do. Not everyone in America is Christian, that's a personal choice that shouldn't infringe on the country as a whole.

Republicans need to drop the promotion of moral religious laws.

Democrats need to drop the fight for OBC's for-profit machine and come up with a non-profit solution or drop it all together before nobody can afford health care anymore. Nobody can afford to pay a higher payment than their house payment for health care. The middle class just can't support poor peoples health care.
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Old 11-28-2017, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Only one "issue" needs to be dropped.

Anything that liberal/communist/progressives advocate. As all of them seem to have been dropped on their heads long ago.


CN
Cool story bro
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Old 11-28-2017, 08:09 AM
 
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As if one example by your family somehow means it's a huge deal with conservatives. That's just something you made up.
If you're going to comment on an issue how about you not make a blanket statement based on one personal experience.
Timeline: The Religious Right and the Republican Platform | BillMoyers.com


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Timeline: The Religious Right and the Republican Platform
Timeline: The Religious Right and the Republican Platform

The Republican party platform of 1912 did not contain a single reference to God.

The word faith appeared once, in the phrase “faith in government.” A century later, the 2012 Republican platform contains 10 references to God and 19 to faith — in phrases like “faith-based organizations,” and “faith communities.” What changed?

The forty-year timeline below traces the increased inclusion in the platform of the language and ideals of the Religious Right.

1972 The Republican party platform does not contain a single reference to God or religious issues.

1976: first mention of abortion1976 Following the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision, the Republican platform calls for “a position on abortion that values human life.” It also asserts that “Our great American Republic was founded on the principle: One nation under God, with liberty and justice for all.”
1980 A year after Jerry Falwell founded the Moral Majority, the Republican platform contains only one reference to God, but an entire section on abortion. While affirming the party’s “support of a constitutional amendment to restore protection of the right to life for unborn children” the section nonetheless recognizes that there are “differing views on this question among Americans in general—and in our own Party.”

A section on the judiciary reads, “We will work for the appointment of judges at all levels of the judiciary who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.”

1984: first mention of sex and violence in the media1984 Following James Dobson’s founding of the Family Research Council in 1983, issues like sex education and sex and violence in the media appear in the party platform for the first time. Regarding abortion, the platform calls for a “human life” amendment to the Constitution and “legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children.” The platform also contains the first mention of school vouchers.
1988 This was the year that right-wing televangelist Pat Robertson was a serious contender for the Republican presidential nomination. In addition to the now-standard calls for a human life amendment and extending Fourteenth Amendment protections to unborn children, this platform promises to eliminate funding for organizations which advocate or support abortion, and for fetal protection in scientific research. The platform also contains an entire section on pornography.

1992: first mention of same-sex marriage and gays in the military1992 The year of Pat Buchanan’s infamous “culture wars” convention speech, the party unveils a platform with four references to God and seven references to “family values.” This is the first Republican party platform to address sexual preference, opposing the inclusion of sexual preference as a protected minority, rejecting any legislation which legally recognizes same-sex marriage and supporting the continued exclusion of homosexuals from the military.
1996 This platform goes a step further, endorsing the Defense of Marriage Act to prevent states from recognizing same-sex unions. It also builds on the school voucher concept and includes religious schools and homeschooling as parental options.

and it goes on from there.

It would be nice to turn back the Republican clock to the point when they knew mixing religion and politics was a bad idea.
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