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Old 11-27-2017, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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poor people don't pay taxes, how could any tax cut help them?
People who make $100,000 *do* pay taxes. And in some cases, those people will pay more in taxes so that Bill Gates can pay less.

That's the irony of this tax plan. It actually disadvantages voters in more upscale suburbs who tend to vote Republican.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/business...fZK/story.html
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Old 11-27-2017, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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People who make $100,000 *do* pay taxes. And in some cases, those people will pay more in taxes so that Bill Gates can pay less.

That's the irony of this tax plan. It actually disadvantages voters in more upscale suburbs who tend to vote Republican.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/business...fZK/story.html
Her I am in Deep Red Rowan County and my neighbors are going nuts, as they have figured out they will pay more.
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Old 11-27-2017, 04:14 PM
 
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110k is no where near middle class. The medican family income is just over half that.
What it takes to be in the "middle class" (which is a construct by the way, not an actual thing easily measured), varies greatly by where one lives.


Here in NYC area yes, you need nearly one grand per to be considered "middle class" .


Are you in the US middle class? Try our income calculator | Pew Research Center


Things will vary by household size and a few other factors, but there you are then.
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Old 11-27-2017, 04:17 PM
 
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Didn't see this posted yet. seems Rs don't want to talk about this tax plan because it is clearly going to hurt millions while enriching those at the top the most and throwing a dry old bone to those on about 100k ..

The CBO says the poor , the low income and most of the middle will not do well out of this plan.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...inds/23289281/
So, you're upset someone else isn't paying significantly more than their "fair share" and now just more than their "fair share"?

If the middle class wants to pay less taxes, they need to vote for people who will spend less tax dollars.

It's really simple.
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Old 11-27-2017, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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So, you're upset someone else isn't paying significantly more than their "fair share" and now just more than their "fair share"?

If the middle class wants to pay less taxes, they need to vote for people who will spend less tax dollars.

It's really simple.
Or they could simply vote anyone out of office who votes for this Globalist/Establishment Tax Cut.
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Old 11-27-2017, 04:50 PM
 
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Or they could simply vote anyone out of office who votes for this Globalist/Establishment Tax Cut.
People have been voting, for quite some time, for politicians who demand some people pay a ridiculous amount of tax dollars simply because they are very successful.
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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So, you're upset someone else isn't paying significantly more than their "fair share" and now just more than their "fair share"?

If the middle class wants to pay less taxes, they need to vote for people who will spend less tax dollars.

It's really simple.

Voters don't like spending cuts but they love tax cuts.
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:09 PM
 
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Voters don't like spending cuts but they love tax cuts.
Make them start writing a check each year to the IRS, and they will.
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:32 PM
 
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People have been voting, for quite some time, for politicians who demand some people pay a ridiculous amount of tax dollars simply because they are very successful.
BULL. I make some pretty good money and my taxes are very low. My guess is you have the worst tax attorneys in your state.

Frankly if you paying "a lot" you are doing it wrong.

I am not going to get into my finances but getting rid of estate taxes, AMT , keeping cap gains at 20 and both lowering and loosening pass trhough is a boon to the wealthy.

It is pure gold from goldman sach.

tax attorneys will be very very busy if this plan goes through because the world and it's dog are going to be setting up for it.
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:34 PM
 
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BULL. I make some pretty good money and my taxes are very low. My guess is you have the worst tax attorneys in your state.

Frankly if you paying "a lot" you are doing it wrong.

I am not going to get into my finances but getting rid of estate taxes, AMT , keeping cap gains at 20 and both lowering and loosening pass trhough is a boon to the wealthy.

It is pure gold from goldman sach.

tax attorneys will be very very busy if this plan goes through because the world and it's dog are going to be setting up for it.
I'm not rich, so I'm not paying a ridiculous amount.

I am paying too much, and the absolute best tax attorney there is cant stop that without committing fraud.
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