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Old 11-28-2017, 04:44 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Not what I'm talking about.

Take my state for instance, 7 million people, and 4.5 million live right in my metro area or 65% of the state, with another 1 million or 15% living in Greater Tucson. 80% of the state lives in Greater Phoenix or Greater Tucson

Or California, 40 million people, with 19 million in Greater LA, 9 million in the Bay Area, 2 million in Greater San Diego and 2 million in Greater Sacramento, or 32 million out of the 40 million, 80% of the state
When you make a statement like you did, 70% live in urban areas, you absolutely are talking about. You're now moving the goalposts, as usual.
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Old 11-28-2017, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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So a person in NYC can dictate what kind of laws a farm in Iowa has to abide by, when it's a completely different way of life and settings? No thank you! There is a reason why the electoral college vote exists. It's there to protect the states that don't have the coastal areas or beautiful mountains to bring in large vasts of tourist. Flyover states must be protected by the big cities, just as civil rights are needed to protect the blacks from all the whites in this country. If you cannot understand this logic, then there is no help for you.
I look at both the Senate and the EC as subsidization of Rural backwater states, that otherwise would flounder
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Old 11-28-2017, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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When you make a statement like you did, 70% live in urban areas, you absolutely are talking about. You're now moving the goalposts, as usual.
Nope, my examples are what I was talking about
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Old 11-28-2017, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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So a person in NYC can dictate what kind of laws a farm in Iowa has to abide by, when it's a completely different way of life and settings? No thank you! There is a reason why the electoral college vote exists. It's there to protect the states that don't have the coastal areas or beautiful mountains to bring in large vasts of tourist. Flyover states must be protected by the big cities, just as civil rights are needed to protect the blacks from all the whites in this country. If you cannot understand this logic, then there is no help for you.
The Progressives HATE this concept which is the basis for the American Republic, because they hate America, and its values which are largely rural. Self sufficiency, helping your neighbor, hard work, supporting your military, paying your taxes, keeping your family together, honesty. All values that Progressive despise.
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Old 11-28-2017, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Not what I'm talking about.

Take my state for instance, 7 million people, and 4.5 million live right in my metro area or 65% of the state, with another 1 million or 15% living in Greater Tucson. 80% of the state lives in Greater Phoenix or Greater Tucson

Or California, 40 million people, with 19 million in Greater LA, 9 million in the Bay Area, 2 million in Greater San Diego and 2 million in Greater Sacramento, or 32 million out of the 40 million, 80% of the state
And, our constitution is designed to protect the individual's rights and freedoms against the majority.
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Old 11-28-2017, 04:48 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Nope, my examples are what I was talking about
Oh. Right. Maybe you shouldn't make blanket statements then. But you will and then back track.
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Old 11-28-2017, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Oh. Right. Maybe you shouldn't make blanket statements then. But you will and then back track.
Cool story bro
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Old 11-28-2017, 04:49 PM
 
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don't be silly both fox and OP are purposely taking Joy out of context. notice how the OP misquoted to make it all sound so much worse.


This is what 'SOME' of Right does. They misrepresent the Left endlessly in order to instill fear.

Just think of what many dems want. tolerance of people who are not you not me, and that includes those crazy religious folk. The dems don't care just don't try to force others to believe or life that lifestyle choice...

But if the right ever admits that they have to face the fact that they are the ones creating the problem, and who wants to admit that?

Every dem i know merely wants the opportunity to live free and unburdened by others. I have never met a dem who wants to close down a church or stop someone from praising their god.
I never met a dem who says they want to take everyone's guns, that too is a lie. I have met plenty who want background checks and to end military grade weapons being sold to the public. just as the public is not allowed to buy hundreds of dangerous chemicals..

Mostly if the Republicans stopped trying to scare people into voting for them there would be no real divide between 90% of the pop.

both sides have their fringe crazies who want zero tax, or a free for all and such like.
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Old 11-28-2017, 04:49 PM
 
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It's amazing that so many still today arr unable to understand that in part it's stuff like this that caused their candidate to lose.

Rather than find a decent person to run, they want to change the rules.
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Old 11-28-2017, 04:53 PM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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I do agree that both must co-exist. However, the current culture in rural America, especially in the South, is reaching a boiling point. People who don't realize why Trump is so popular haven't spent much time in rural America. Big city people who don't understand how people could support Trump ought to spend some time in places like Arkansas or Oklahoma or Mississippi and get a feel for the culture. People down here are living in a very different reality than city residents are living in. The reality down here is shaped heavily by fundamentalist religion, Fox News, and Alex Jones.

I think SOMETHING needs to be done to bridge the gap between urban and rural Americans as the two are becoming increasingly polarized.
Where in the south do you live? You must not get out much.
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