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Old 11-30-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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Why are the rich against the tax bill then?
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:10 AM
 
Location: NC
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For those who have been misinformed and are passing around bogus B S about rate increases during ACA compared to prior to ACA.

Slower Premium Growth Under Obama - FactCheck.org

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robbman...surance-rates/
factcheck.org is owned by University of Penn

My premium went up 190% the first couple years after ACA was passed, I was -not- allowed to keep my doctor
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:13 AM
 
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"There’s the Joint Committee on Taxation, established in 1926 with congressional oversight to prepare revenue estimates on proposals related to taxation. There’s also the Congressional Budget Office, which produces independent analysis of the budgetary effects of legislation."

"Recently released analyses from both groups come to the same conclusion. Over both the short- and long-term, the benefits of the Republican proposal is weighted to wealthier Americans."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.1db16d5e0b2b
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:14 AM
 
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Everyone from faith leaders and ordinary Americans to JCT and CBO are saying the same thing -- it benefits the wealthy at the expense of working Americans.

"It’s no wonder then that the GOP tax bills are now among the least popular pieces of major legislation in modern history, with the public rejecting it by a two-to-one margin. Other than Republicans, all party, gender, education, age and racial groups disapprove of the bill."

https://www.theatlantic.com/business...opular/546668/
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:15 AM
 
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My premium went up 190% the first couple years after ACA was passed, I was -not- allowed to keep my doctor
I'm sorry your premium went up, if it actually did.

I'm sorry you selected an insurance plan that did not have your doctor in network. Bummer.

However, this thread is about the unfortunate GOP tax bill.
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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For those who have been misinformed and are passing around bogus B S about rate increases during ACA compared to prior to ACA.

Slower Premium Growth Under Obama - FactCheck.org

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robbman...surance-rates/
Stop posting facts. My Uncles Friend's cousin got a 980909% increase.

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My premium went up 190% the first couple years after ACA was passed, I was -not- allowed to keep my doctor
Anecdotes do not equal trend.

And. I used to work with a man who capped his insurance. He wasnt allowed to keep anything of value once the hospital was done with him.
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:16 AM
 
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Why are the rich against the tax bill then?
Are they?
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I'd rather the bill not pass, but I see the upside if it does. It makes Republicans in blue states vulnerable. Contrary to popular belief, there are Republican suburban districts lying outside of major cities on the East Coast, and these districts would be disadvantaged by this bill.
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:21 AM
 
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Are they?
Nope. At least not the rich backing the Republicans. They're the ones putting the pressure on.

The message has been sent loud and clear -- Pass that Tax Cuts for the Rich or forget about our support.
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:21 AM
 
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Perhaps some of us were concerned with the deficit under the previous administration. And your point -- does that mean you are okay with increasing the deficit under Trump but didn't like the deficit under Obama. Or are you as concerned with the deficit now as you were under OBama?
I am ok with another trillion getting added on in order to get some economic growth moving in this country. Regardless of what we do. The deficit will jump another 10 trillion. Obama added on so much debt because of liberal policies. Liberals Import immigrants who vote for big government. The larger the government , there more spending happens. We need to decrease spending, and shrink government in order to achieve any decrease in the deficit. The spending is out of control.
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