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Old 11-30-2017, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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Can you cite some references that show this was directly related to Trump's "work"? Were these new factories already slated to come to the rust belt prior to the new administration?
Sigh, when Freak puts those blue smileys in his posts, he's being sarcastic
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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So, in ten months, companies decided to build factories, got them designed and they are going up. I think if you explored that, they were planned a long time before Trump was on the scene.

If indeed "companies are bringing their operations back from Mexico and China. All the good union jobs are coming back," then why was 2016 job gains better than 2017? Not that I'm skeptical of what you are writing, I think there is more to it.

Moreover, what specific policies to you attribute to companies bringing their operations back from Mexico and China? The answer is, it has nothing to do with Trump. In fact, "Last year, (2016) for the first time in decades, more manufacturing jobs came back to the United States than left, according to data compiled by the Reshoring Initiative, a firm that works to bring jobs back to the U.S."

If you look at the multi-year trend, manufacturing jobs have been on the rise long before Trump was president.
My post was intended as sarcasm.

The economy of upstate NY has been in the toilet since the 1970s and will remain in the toilet forever because New York City has all the clout.
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Your post is impossible to distinguish from sarcasm. Trump hasnt done anything. And you are the first to point out that GDP numbers and unemployment numbers are fake anyway. Until Trump became president of course.
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This is why we're headed for conflict. Many in America want the Country to fail to justify their marxist philosophy.
Mike is merely pointing out that giving Trump credit for good economic news is like the rooster taking credit for the sun rising, when Trump hasn't enacted a single economic piece of legislation. He is quick to take credit for good news and will blame others for bad news.

It has nothing to do with "wanting the country to fail," (like Republicans wanted the country to fail under Obama.)
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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I can guarantee you that if the job market and economy had tanked, the liberals would be wetting themselves blaming Donald Trump. But as it continues to improve, the loony left credits the Disaster-in-Chief Apologist Obama.

Leftist hypocrisy at it's absolute worst.
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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My post was intended as sarcasm.

The economy of upstate NY has been in the toilet since the 1970s and will remain in the toilet forever because New York City has all the clout.
Oh shid. Sarcasm doesn't flow well through the Internet, since expressions can't be heard. Try: [SARCASM][/SARCASM] lol
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Mars City
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Even if Wall Street was somehow better this year, there's a lot more to this country than that. So, we're celebrating a tiny segment of the population's glory? I see, screw the majority of the country, and only focus on and benefit one group. Nice approach to running a country...
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I can guarantee you that if the job market and economy had tanked, the liberals would be wetting themselves blaming Donald Trump. But as it continues to improve, the loony left credits the Disaster-in-Chief Apologist Obama.

Leftist hypocrisy at it's absolute worst.
I'd like to know what you considered a "disaster" under Obama? GDP rose dramatically from the minus 8% loss that he inherited; unemployment fell from 10% to 4.4%; inflation was kept in-check; stocks rose 275%; the uninsured rate fell to modern day lows. So, what was the disaster? I must have missed it.
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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Mike is merely pointing out that giving Trump credit for good economic news is like the rooster taking credit for the sun rising, when Trump hasn't enacted a single economic piece of legislation. He is quick to take credit for good news and will blame others for bad news.

It has nothing to do with "wanting the country to fail," (like Republicans wanted the country to fail under Obama.)
Lets say you are correct.
1) If the tax bill is passed that would be the significant legislation you need done by Trump and the GOP.
2) If the economy grows and improves it will be due to Trump and its his economy. Same if it tanks.

Is that correct ?
For good or bad, that's how we will know its the Trump economy ? That's the standard and the same one we could use to look back on and decide whos economy it was the last 30 years ?
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:51 AM
 
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I can guarantee you that if the job market and economy had tanked, the liberals would be wetting themselves blaming Donald Trump. But as it continues to improve, the loony left credits the Disaster-in-Chief Apologist Obama.

Leftist hypocrisy at it's absolute worst.
I can accept the idea its one or the other.

If I accept the idea that if the economy tanks--right now--Obama is largely to blame than will you accept the notion that the economy's good condition today is the result of Obama policies?

Its a yes or no question. And you can't have it both ways either, because that would be hypocrisy, wouldn't it?
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:57 AM
 
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I can guarantee you that if the job market and economy had tanked, the liberals would be wetting themselves blaming Donald Trump. But as it continues to improve, the loony left credits the Disaster-in-Chief Apologist Obama.

Leftist hypocrisy at it's absolute worst.
oh you know we anti-Trumpers are going to be all over blaming Trump but guess what -- you all are asking for it -- lol.


Most of us realize that the market is going to drop -- there will be a slow down, it is coming...8 years of growth has to stop sometime. When Trump took office there was 76 months of positive job growth. That has continued even with no real policies to stimulate job growth. I've mentioned too many times, growth in my area has been great and continues -- we have huge manufacturing facilities that will finally open in 2018 adding thousands of jobs to our community. That has nothing to do with Trump, Tax Reform, Trade deals, optimism under Trump. The plants were started in 2015 and will not be operational until 2018.

So when the slump happens -- of course we know it isn't Trump's fault but it will be fun to play the same silly games Trump fans have played since he took office giving him credit for something he has done nothing for.
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