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Sen. Lindsey Graham said “if we don’t get this tax bill passed they won’t write the checks and the party die”. He was referring to the BIG donors of the 1%. So it comes down to this – The GOP is all about money and to hell with what’s best for the people. If this is the type of ethics, morals, and ideology the Republicans have then I don’t want any part of it. And they said they were the party of “family values”. OKLA & KAN seemed to always talk about their family values but things will be changing in other red states as well. Too many people are dependent on government assistance in some form of their daily lives and had no idea of what will be taken away from them. R’s will be turning away, but I don’t know where they’ll go. This whole mess started with the Tea Party and ended up in the laps of the GOP. As Trump said – “elections have consequences”. This might be the end of the GOP.
At least Lindsey had the guts to tell the truth. It was about pleasing their donors and nothing else.
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And you think Kamala Cop Killer Harris, Hillary Jr Gillibrand, or Pocahantas are going to do any better?
They are like Hillary without the name recognition.
Crazy Joe or the Socialist being investigated by the FBI? Will they even be alive to make fools of themselves?
The truth is, every candidate you have is the worst.
LOL. Says the person with crazy old Donald Trump at the helm. Please.
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And the same is true of the Democratic Party.
Do you really think the Democratic party would have passed such a tax bill and then plan to gut SS and Medicare?
Kansas is looking at a billion dollar shortfall and the Oklahoma budget crisis has resulted in many school districts going to four day week or shortening the school year.
Kansas is one of the higher taxed states. So is Illinois which has huge financial problems. Just to have high taxes does not guarantee anything. You are saying Oklahoma and Kansas have the same issues but both are very different regarding taxes so what is the point?
Sen. Lindsey Graham said “if we don’t get this tax bill passed they won’t write the checks and the party die”. He was referring to the BIG donors of the 1%. So it comes down to this – The GOP is all about money and to hell with what’s best for the people. If this is the type of ethics, morals, and ideology the Republicans have then I don’t want any part of it. And they said they were the party of “family values”. OKLA & KAN seemed to always talk about their family values but things will be changing in other red states as well. Too many people are dependent on government assistance in some form of their daily lives and had no idea of what will be taken away from them. R’s will be turning away, but I don’t know where they’ll go. This whole mess started with the Tea Party and ended up in the laps of the GOP. As Trump said – “elections have consequences”. This might be the end of the GOP.
Boom. Great line. The minds of a Trump cult supporter believe they have earned those benefits, but the others(people of color, the liberals) haven't. In their minds Trump and the GOP will take away those from the others, but not mine. Not realizing it effects them too
Also remember a lot of the GOP base are single issue voters (social issues, guns). I also have come to the conclusion from the Trump cult supporters they have a sadistic way of thinking. If those liberals are suffering it's a huge win (even if I'm suffering too or I'm suffering and I want to see others suffer too). A lot them hate government and would love to see it destroyed with America becoming like The Walking Dead where those who survivor fight for themselves with no laws nothing. It's each to their own.
Instead of spurring business investment and job creation, researchers from a number of institutions say it turned more into a "tax avoidance" program. A lot of white-collar workers like law partners, accountants, and doctors stopped taking salaries and instead started claiming the profits of the business. For them, state income tax essentially went from a maximum of 4.6% to nothing. This has led to the ongoing budget crisis.
“Kansas has been an unmitigated budgetary disaster,” Dr Lori McMillan, a tax-law professor at Washburn University, told Business Insider. “It was a very messy, blunt club when a scalpel was needed.”
The economic growth from the tax cuts never materialized. Kansas was saddled with an almost instantaneous budget hole, leaving schools and pensions drastically underfunded. Infrastructure repairs were put on hold. And to deal with a $700 million drop in revenue — almost twice what was predicted — Kansas raised its sales tax, hurting all residents, but especially lower income Kansans.
Kansas has some peculiarities, but the lessons still apply nationally. In the state, a 0% tax rate applied only to "pass-through" businesses, which send their profits directly to the companies' owners. Before this law, those owners would just pay Kansas' individual tax rate. The 2012 law effectively created a new category just for them, where they pay nothing.
In Oklahoma it's all about the three Gs..."God, guns, and gays." The state is hyperconservative and fundamentalist Christian socially. People are fed up with the actions of the current crop of state legislators but they are going to vote for them anyways because they wave their Bibles and the alternative would be voting for a "baby killer" and a "homosexual lover".
Oklahoma is currently in a very dire situation but I don't have much hope that the people will vote their best interests because doing so would "offend God".
In Oklahoma it's all about the three Gs..."God, guns, and gays." The state is hyperconservative and fundamentalist Christian socially. People are fed up with the actions of the current crop of state legislators but they are going to vote for them anyways because they wave their Bibles and the alternative would be voting for a "baby killer" and a "homosexual lover".
Oklahoma is currently in a very dire situation but I don't have much hope that the people will vote their best interests because doing so would "offend God".
Perhaps spend a little time there before you just babble stereotypes that are greatly exaggerated. The 3 G's that is too funny. You are sort of mixing up Alabama and Moore with Oklahoma just because its also a red state. I am not a republican or democrat but I spent several months this year there and your characterization is a joke.
Oklahoma county which composes over 30% of the state population voted 51%-41% for Trump not exactly hyper conservative. Its the rural areas which are much more conservative.
Unlike the Alabama race which has a true liberal running against a GOP far right conservative most races in Oklahoma whether GOP or Dem have similar points of view:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklaho...Party#Ideology
Compared to other Democratic factions, Centrist members of the Oklahoma Democratic Party support the use of military force and the use of deadly force in self-defense. They are more willing to reduce government welfare. Many Oklahoma Democrats are socially conservative by supporting the United States pro-life movement and traditional marriage. The Oklahoma Democratic Party tends to support moderate to conservative positions on gun control and open carry.
Isn't this Democrats fawning over chances of winning a local dog catcher position.
Doesn't sound like much of a comeback to me.
It's not really about the one race. It's the fundamental change that's beginning to take place all over the country, Waldo. Because of your hero Trump the GOP will be facing significant backlash come the next election. As proof of this, Democrats winning anything, yes anything, in an area that has traditionally been held in an iron grip by Republicans is a huge f***ing deal. Especially in a place like Oklahoma of all places.
We're looking at the big picture of what changes like this mean. Yeah a small race by itself is really no big deal. But when you figure it in with the dynamics of what's going on it's huge. Or, as your orange boy likes to say; "Yuuuuuuge".
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