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Cutting Medicare and Social Security is clearly the goal here. Rubio said it out loud.
Anyone voting for the upcoming Senate race in Alabama. A vote for Moore means you vote to cut your Medicare and Social Security (and that of your children). A vote for Jones means you vote against cutting your Medicare and Social Security.
Pretty much every middle class voters is impacted by Social Security and Medicare cuts at some point in their life. Or the life of their family members.
The GOP is going to try to cut Medicare and Social Security and that 1 vote in Alabama could make the difference between you getting $250 less per month for the rest of your life.
Funny thing is, no such bill has been proposed by Republicans.
So the question is-are Democrats liars, or simply delusional?
Both. This entire thread is based off both. The truth hasn't ever stopped them from pushing lies and doubling down on them in the past, it won't this time either.
I guess the same exact way they felt when Obama didn't allow cost of living increases for most of his presidency. I bet they just LOVED when Obama stole billions of dollars from Medicare and funneled into the ACA. But that was ok, right? RIGHT!?
WRONG.
1) Obama didn't have anything to do whether SS recipients got COLA increases. And, in case you're deluding yourself on this score, Trump won't have anything to do with it either. A COLA used to take a specific act of Congress, but in 1972, Congress enacted a more-or-less automatic bureaucratic process which is based on increases/decreases in the CPI-W. No presidential input required. SS recipients know how this works, so I guess you're not an SS recipient. https://www.ssa.gov/news/cola/
2) The ACA integrated certain aspects of Medicare. No one actually knows what the long term effects of this change will be (especially now that Congress is making changes to it), but in the short term, the ACA changes added wellness/preventive benefits for Medicare recipients and started to close that absurd prescription "doughnut hole" enacted under GWBush. The ACA also took steps to institute some cost containment measures for both the ACA and Medicare, something that most people think is necessary if we're ever going to get a handle on health care costs. But I guess if you LIKE Medicare overpayments and fraud and paying for substandard care, this would not make you happy. Oh well. https://www.aarp.org/health/medicare...-care-act.html
Both. This entire thread is based off both. The truth hasn't ever stopped them from pushing lies and doubling down on them in the past, it won't this time either.
Ryan plans to work on restructuring (i.e., cutting) entitlements, specifically SS and Medicare, next year. I don't think he's lying about his plans, but maybe you've given him a lie detector test and concluded that he is lying about his plans? Or you have information that he's a secret Democrat? Or what, exactly? https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...s-next-year-a/
As night follows day, this is what happens every single time. The GOP wants massive tax cuts to please wealthy donors, and when the deficit balloons, as it always does, they say the answer is to cut Medicare and Social Security. Every.single.time.
Republicans justify huge corporate tax cuts by saying the cuts will "trickle down" to benefit workers. When there is no "trickle down", they say "Entitlement Cuts!"
"As the population ages and health-care costs continue to rise, the fiscal demands on entitlements like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security are projected to grow. The projected increase in the debt from the tax package could make the situation worse, budget experts say.
“In the past when members of Congress have been concerned about the debt, they’ve turned to these programs, so it’s not a stretch to see that they turn there in the foreseeable future,†said Tricia Neuman, a senior vice president at the Kaiser Family Foundation.
“If we are talking about the kinds of deficits†that are projected from the tax bill, “entitlement cuts are definitely on the table,†said William Hoagland, a senior vice president at the Bipartisan Policy Center."
Completely predictable because we've done this before and if happens every time with the GOP. Paul Ryan has dreamed of privatizing Medicare since forever.
Called this in another thread; and am once again correct! *LOL*
McConnell and Ryan having so far gotten that dog of a tax bill passed, and confident it will be wrapped up and sent to His Orangeness before Christmas, are now setting their sights on how to pay for the thing.
Everyone and their mother knows the USA economy is *NOT* going to get the 5% or anywhere near growth of GDP to pay for this tax bill. History tells us that after Ronald Regan slashed taxes the deficit rose and country went into recession. Largely because spending was not cut in kind and so the government simply was starving for money.
Anyone who is surprised by this latest move either has had their heads in sand for past decade or to, and or equally wants their heads examined. Paul Ryan, the GOP House and much of the Senate are not in business for anyone else but the one percent. They are now going to attempt to starve for funding and or cut every single social or entitlement program to pay for the tax cuts they just doled out to the rich and very wealthy.
This is not going to end well, I promise you that.
No doubt, Republicans want to wean everybody off of government. So they think Social Security and Medicare should be totally privatized. Poor and disabled people should have a wide variety of resources from which to ask for help or money but nothing from government. As Republicans see it, this means poor and disabled begging for help from friends, relatives, neighbors, churches and private charities.
would have thought this would be popular with millennials, they seem to hate how some employers have pensions while they dont, and dont mind taking it away from the ones who do have them
at least social security is the largest of the pensions
I guess the same exact way they felt when Obama didn't allow cost of living increases for most of his presidency. I bet they just LOVED when Obama stole billions of dollars from Medicare and funneled into the ACA. But that was ok, right? RIGHT!?
Never happened, just a bunch of BS the uninformed repeats like parrots. Prove it, I ask for the 50th time and no one can. FAKE FAUX news crap.
Except that officials from both sides have been saying for a couple decades, at least, that both Social Security and Medicare have to be restructured.
It's been done several times over the years, most recently in the 1980s when the tax rate went up, the amount FICA would be withheld from increased and, most significantly, the Full Retirement Age was incrementally increased for those born after around 1952 (I don't feel like looking for the actual date).
Allow me to reemphasize, officials from both sides. It wasn't too long ago that some of you now bemoaning this were advocating for it when it was discussed by a different Administration.
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FAKE FAUX news crap. 
