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Old 12-07-2017, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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If east is already annexed and the Embassy goes there...Then what is the big deal. Let's be honest Palestine can't fight Israel. And this dream of peace in the middle east was always a fairy tale. too much difference to work.
So essentially you're just writing the Palestinians off completely because they are weaker than Israel?

 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The situation in Israel and the Middle East is completely unique compared to anywhere else in the world. It's a tinderbox, and any move should be deliberate and cautious, all the repercussions of any action must be considered long and hard.
It's a tinder box because Arabs and Muslims and Persians hate Jews more than they love life itself.

The one truth in this world, is if no one commits acts of war against Israel, or sends suicide bombers and knife wielding fanatics to murder Jews, then there will be peace with the Jews.

Ask yourself, how many nations are there in the Middle East, who live peacefully with their neighbors.
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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Who cares? For all we know the US gov't sent it to Israel via Fedex. Non issue for this thread.
Nah, pretty sure they didn’t do that. Nice try though. Thanks for the link.
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:12 AM
 
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Two former Presidents promised to officially recognize it, but reneged on their promise.

Learn some history.
Becoming president places a solemn burden to look at the situation with a non-partisan perspective for the good of the country. Being president one takes full personal responsibility for one's actions and their consequences.

Often that means facing the unpleasant reality that one's poorly informed and emotional base wants what's bad for a country, the rhetoric garners votes from narrow minded people. Mature responsible leaders will do what's right, not suck up to their base.
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Wapasha View Post
It's a tinder box because Arabs and Muslims and Persians hate Jews more than they love life itself.

The one truth in this world, is if no one commits acts of war against Israel, or sends suicide bombers and knife wielding fanatics to murder Jews, then there will be peace with the Jews.

Ask yourself, how many nations are there in the Middle East, who live peacefully with their neighbors.
OK, what's your point? Regardless of who hates who more, and who is throwing more gasoline, what idiot steps into the middle of the fray and tosses a match? This is EXACTLY why no Republican President has ever made a move like this.
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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OK, what's your point? Regardless of who hates who more, and who is throwing more gasoline, what idiot steps into the middle of the fray and tosses a match? This is EXACTLY why no Republican President has ever made a move like this.
So the governments of Israel and the USA are forced to give in to bullies? Clinton, Bush and Obama all promised to do this and all gave into pressure and failed.
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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Palestinians and terrorists have been violent in the middle east for decades. That is old news.

Trump had the courage to do what is right. Bold move and both America and Israel are stronger for it.
You are apparently another one of these people who will lump Palestinians and terrorists in the same group without thinking twice, much like others will do the same with Muslims. People who think (or don't) like you do are PART OF THE PROBLEM.

Do you know how many Palestinians live in America, Israel, the rest of the world?

What Trump has done is not courage! You think Trump fears one bit for himself, family, life or limbs like those who might actually die over this nitwit of a move? For no good reason?

What is "old news" is this ongoing disrespect for those who deserve much better than ongoing unnecessary conflict and violence, those on the front lines. Also old news are all these people comfortable in their American living rooms who can hardly distinguish the ramifications of a real war as compared to a war movie.
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:23 AM
 
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So the governments of Israel and the USA are forced to give in to bullies? Clinton, Bush and Obama all promised to do this and all gave into pressure and failed.
The government/Administration of the USA should not be forced to do ANYTHING, should they? Trump has shown that he can easily be forced into making a foolish knee-jerk decision. All it took was a little heat from Robert Mueller. Trump always operates from a position of weakness, not from a position of strength. All his bluster and BS and grandstanding and blundering is simply a sign that he is struggling - bigly.
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:25 AM
 
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What is wrong with recognizing a sovereign nation from picking its own capital?
 
Old 12-07-2017, 10:25 AM
 
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Because it is the nation's capital city.

Every other nation gets to decide where their capital city is.
You are confusing Israel with all the many nations that have clear uncontested sovereign borders, are you not?

You new to this subject perhaps?

What another waste of a thread and time...
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