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This is a guy with a long history of experience as to how Washington works.
We criticize Ivanka for how little she's been able to influence President Trump's actions; yet we have Mike Pence, VP, with loads of experience and relationships with D.C. - he has had no influence.
Or has he? Saying Mike Pence has no influence is like saying Dick Cheney had no influence.
Steve Bannon gets credit/blame for puppeteering Trump, but Mike Pence should as well.
We already know Pence and his team have been organizing in case something happens to Trump so Pence can take over.
And the leaks? I don't think it was just Reince Priebus or Steve Bannon leaking things. I think Pence leaks a lot of stuff too.
Pence has successfully got Trump to implement the wish list of the donors Pence serves, all while keeping Pence's own name off of the initiatives so he can't be tied to the sloppiness of the implementation, the legal/criminal implications of it, or the backlash when things go wrong.
Whenever things go wrong, Pence goes on TV and says he wasn't aware of this and that. But I don't buy this act of his where he wants us to believe that he knows less than Jon Snow. People have counted all the lies Trump has told either on TV or in tweets, but let's not forget that Pence lies with the best of them as well.
And when Pence inevitably has to be interviewed by Mueller, Pence will cover himself and turn on Trump in a heartbeat if it came down to that. Pence benefitted from Trump's election and will benefit even more if Trump goes down.
I think Pence has been manipulating Trump, the Trump family, and the media. Therefore Pence needs to get just as much blame for how things are going - because 1) he knows better and 2) he is in control.
This is a guy with a long history of experience as to how Washington works.
We criticize Ivanka for how little she's been able to influence President Trump's actions; yet we have Mike Pence, VP, with loads of experience and relationships with D.C. - he has had no influence.
Or has he? Saying Mike Pence has no influence is like saying Dick Cheney had no influence.
Steve Bannon gets credit/blame for puppeteering Trump, but Mike Pence should as well.
We already know Pence and his team have been organizing in case something happens to Trump so Pence can take over.
And the leaks? I don't think it was just Reince Priebus or Steve Bannon leaking things. I think Pence leaks a lot of stuff too.
Pence has successfully got Trump to implement the wish list of the donors Pence serves, all while keeping Pence's own name off of the initiatives so he can't be tied to the sloppiness of the implementation, the legal/criminal implications of it, or the backlash when things go wrong.
Whenever things go wrong, Pence goes on TV and says he wasn't aware of this and that. But I don't buy this act of his where he wants us to believe that he knows less than Jon Snow. People have counted all the lies Trump has told either on TV or in tweets, but let's not forget that Pence lies with the best of them as well.
And when Pence inevitably has to be interviewed by Mueller, Pence will cover himself and turn on Trump in a heartbeat if it came down to that. Pence benefitted from Trump's election and will benefit even more if Trump goes down.
I think Pence has been manipulating Trump, the Trump family, and the media. Therefore Pence needs to get just as much blame for how things are going - because 1) he knows better and 2) he is in control.
I think Pence is just doing as ordered by the GOP leadership, waiting to take over the Oval Office after trump is Removed.
This is a guy with a long history of experience as to how Washington works.
We criticize Ivanka for how little she's been able to influence President Trump's actions; yet we have Mike Pence, VP, with loads of experience and relationships with D.C. - he has had no influence.
Or has he? Saying Mike Pence has no influence is like saying Dick Cheney had no influence.
Steve Bannon gets credit/blame for puppeteering Trump, but Mike Pence should as well.
We already know Pence and his team have been organizing in case something happens to Trump so Pence can take over.
And the leaks? I don't think it was just Reince Priebus or Steve Bannon leaking things. I think Pence leaks a lot of stuff too.
Pence has successfully got Trump to implement the wish list of the donors Pence serves, all while keeping Pence's own name off of the initiatives so he can't be tied to the sloppiness of the implementation, the legal/criminal implications of it, or the backlash when things go wrong.
Whenever things go wrong, Pence goes on TV and says he wasn't aware of this and that. But I don't buy this act of his where he wants us to believe that he knows less than Jon Snow. People have counted all the lies Trump has told either on TV or in tweets, but let's not forget that Pence lies with the best of them as well.
And when Pence inevitably has to be interviewed by Mueller, Pence will cover himself and turn on Trump in a heartbeat if it came down to that. Pence benefitted from Trump's election and will benefit even more if Trump goes down.
I think Pence has been manipulating Trump, the Trump family, and the media. Therefore Pence needs to get just as much blame for how things are going - because 1) he knows better and 2) he is in control.
Definitely interesting theory.
I always think of Pence as a cowardly sycophantic lapdog with no personality. Former unpopular governor of Indiana with no political future. One of the few people even willing to share the ticket with Trump.
But you could be right--he may be a stealth lapdog.
Pence, sanctimonious holy roller that he is, is the reason why I don't want Trump to be impeached, removed from office, or to resign. I loathe Trump, but his incompetence is his saving grace.
Pence like most Bible thumpers would sell their own mother into slavery if that is what it takes to get what they want. The over the top sanctimony is just a way for them to avoid dealing with the guilt of being a scumbag.
If Pence really meant what he said about his religious beliefs, he would not have even considered working for Trump. Ultimately, his personal ambition was far more important than his fake public persona as a pious person with actual morals and ethics.
Jesus and the Bible are just marketing tools for people like Pence. If his base of voters was not majority evangelical Christians Pence would be singing a completely different tune.
Pence is by far the most conservative person we have seen so close to the presidentcy in ages. He is not only conservative but yes, a Bible thumper to some degree, but guilty of anything wrong I seriously doubt it. OP, I think you might be letting your imagination run away from you.
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Pence, sanctimonious holy roller that he is, is the reason why I don't want Trump to be impeached, removed from office, or to resign. I loathe Trump, but his incompetence is his saving grace.
I'm with you on this. As terrible as Trump is, he's such an idiot that he's no real threat to pass a bunch of conservative policy.
Pence on the other hand, definitely could. I'd prefer three more years of Trump than three years of Pence.
Pence, sanctimonious holy roller that he is, is the reason why I don't want Trump to be impeached, removed from office, or to resign. I loathe Trump, but his incompetence is his saving grace.
I wish I could rep you a million times. My thoughts exactly!
I think Pence is just doing as ordered by the GOP leadership, waiting to take over the Oval Office after trump is Removed.
Better yet he is masterminding Trump's failure and removal so he can be the president. He is even more shady and horrible than thump thump no one's home trump.....
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