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Old 12-07-2017, 08:29 AM
 
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Ahhhhhhhh driving in Germany was so great. Everyone obeys the rules of the road and there are 0 tolls in the entire country because taxes already pay for everything. It greatly reduced congestion.
That is easy when your roads were built with slave labor and now you are just taxing for maintenance.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:29 AM
 
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They are making it so you cannot get around in Houston, or Dallas, without having to take a toll road.
Austin is not far behind, it looks like.

The intellectuals in charge of our roadway infrastructure, do not see the need when building roads is the population growth. By the time the road is completed in 3 years, it already needs to be widened for another lane or 2.
Now to combat population growth and our roads... Code NEXT LOL!
I-35 through Austin, soon to be tolled, to make up for the lack of vision of growth in the 1970's.

San Antonio has not tolled a road yet.
Hmmm, I live in Houston and rarely pay a toll.

Where in Houston can you not go without paying a toll?
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:57 PM
 
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Plenty of non-"leftists" saying the opposite. Tolling is actually a pretty right-wing idea.
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Funny how you equate tolls with liberals, when conservative Texas has a ton of toll roads, and I'm a liberal and hate tolls and go out of my way to avoid them
Schools and tolls are some areas in which there are many things libs and cons agree on things, though with different intents.

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The tolls were added to I-66 because there were so many cheaters who were violating the HOV rules and driving solo for free.
They can still cheat by switching the EZ-Pass to "HOV." Of course they can still catch them doing it, but I do not think the catching rate will be much different.
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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American crony capitalism at its finest.
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Old 12-07-2017, 02:10 PM
 
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Meanwhile in next door DC, the City Council wants to cease penalizing fare evaders on Metro because "it primarily catches poor people."

Memo to Virginia: Start screaming how poor or working people cannot afford these tolls. And at a max of $40.00, you would not be lying.
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Old 12-07-2017, 02:49 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Why don't you provide us a link to prove your point? Or you could just keep making things up.

More people should work from home.
More companies should ALLOW people to work from home. I'd gladly work from home forever if I could.
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Old 12-07-2017, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Gone
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More companies should ALLOW people to work from home. I'd gladly work from home forever if I could.
Did it for years and now that I am semi-retired those are the only contracts I will take. Still go into an office for the occasional meeting with an engineer but otherwise everything is done remote. I had to learn to pace myself, some would say people will goof off more, but I found I ended up having my 40hrs in by Thursday which worked out great for me so, helps when I have other things in life to do.
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Uh, there are no "free roads". Just because you don't pay tolls doesn't mean you aren't paying for the roads via taxes.
It is 100% free to drive on most roads, what you pay for in taxes is construction and maintenance, not usage.

toll raods are usage fees. And you will pay far more for that than you ever did in taxes.
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:15 PM
 
Location: SGV
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It is 100% free to drive on most roads, what you pay for in taxes is construction and maintenance, not usage.

toll raods are usage fees. And you will pay far more for that than you ever did in taxes.
In Ohio your license and registration fees go for construction and maintenance.

So unless you like living in a cage...you gotta pay it.

I don't care how much I pay in forced toll roads or forced taxes...it's all armed robbery to me.

Nothing is free in socialism. NOTHING.
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:24 PM
 
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In Ohio your license and registration fees go for construction and maintenance.

So unless you like living in a cage...you gotta pay it.

I don't care how much I pay in forced toll roads or forced taxes...it's all armed robbery to me.

Nothing is free in socialism. NOTHING.
Toll roads are closer to a "pay as you use" system than taxation. What is your issue with that?

Is it just because it is not a private company running it that you take issue with?
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