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Old 12-08-2017, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It is communist socialist Bernie.. of course he wants Constitutional protecting Trump out of office!!
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:19 AM
 
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The only reason why Clinton survived impeachment is that finally, he had to come clean and admit to the lie. The fact that Clinton admitted guilt (even under duress) puts him miles above Trump. He knew that to continue the charade, not only would he lose the Presidency, he would be causing enormous damage to the USA, and he was not willing to go there.

Do you really think Trump will ever admit guilt? DJT is one sick puppy that is so egomaniacal that he would rather see the whole country burn than admit a fault or a lie.
"The only reason why Clinton survived impeachment is that finally, he had to come clean and admit to the lie."

B.S.

The senate was controlled by the dems and they were NOT going go for impeachment EVER.

"The fact that Clinton admitted guilt"

". He knew that to continue the charade,"

NOT until the blue dress was discovered,

He DENIED EVERYTHING for a sold YEAR and right up to when the dress was disclosed.

He even LIED IN a COURT OF LAW, so quit trying to distort his record.

Check out the dates and i still do NOT see an apology as you claim.

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Allegations of sexual contact



Monica Lewinsky in May 1997


Lewinsky stated that she had sexual encounters with Bill Clinton on nine occasions from November 1995 to March 1997. According to her published schedule, First Lady Hillary Clinton was at the White House for at least some portion of seven of those days.[15]
In April 1996, Lewinsky's superiors relocated her job to the Pentagon, because they felt that she was spending too much time around Clinton.[16] According to his autobiography, then-United Nations Ambassador Bill Richardson was asked by the White House in 1997 to interview Lewinsky for a job on his staff at the UN. Richardson did so, and offered her a position, which she declined.[17] The American Spectator alleged that Richardson knew more about the Lewinsky affair than he declared to the grand jury.[18]
Lewinsky confided in Linda Tripp about her relationship with Clinton. Tripp persuaded Lewinsky to save the gifts that Clinton had given her, and not to dry clean a semen-stained blue dress. Tripp reported their conversations to literary agent Lucianne Goldberg, who advised her to secretly record them,[19] which Tripp began doing in September 1997. Goldberg also urged Tripp to take the tapes to Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr and bring them to the attention of people working on the Paula Jones case.[20] In the fall of 1997, Goldberg began speaking to reporters (including Michael Isikoff of Newsweek) about the tapes.[21]
In the Paula Jones case, Lewinsky had submitted an affidavit that denied any physical relationship with Clinton. In January 1998, she attempted to persuade Tripp to commit perjury in the Jones case. Instead, Tripp gave the tapes to Starr, who was investigating the Whitewater controversy and other matters. Starr was now armed with evidence of Lewinsky's admission of a physical relationship with Clinton, and he broadened the investigation to include Lewinsky and her possible perjury in the Jones case.
Denial and subsequent admission



Remarks including response to Monica Lewinsky scandal (January 26, 1998)
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Bill Clinton making a presentation that ends with a short commentary on the Monica Lewinsky scandal. The presentation is known for the quote "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." (6:20)

Remarks including response to Monica Lewinsky scandal (January 26, 1998)


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Problems playing these files? See media help. News of the scandal first broke on January 17, 1998, on the Drudge Report,[22] which reported that Newsweek editors were sitting on a story by investigative reporter Michael Isikoff exposing the affair. The story broke in the mainstream press on January 21 in The Washington Post.[23] The story swirled for several days and, despite swift denials from Clinton, the clamor for answers from the White House grew louder. On January 26, President Clinton, standing with his wife, spoke at a White House press conference, and issued a forceful denial in which he said:[24]
Now, I have to go back to work on my State of the Union speech. And I worked on it until pretty late last night. But I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people. Thank you.[25]
Pundits debated whether Clinton would address the allegations in his State of the Union Address. Ultimately, he chose not to mention them. Hillary Clinton remained supportive of her husband throughout the scandal. On January 27, in an appearance on NBC's Today she said, "The great story here for anybody willing to find it and write about it and explain it is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president."
For the next several months and through the summer, the media debated whether an affair had occurred and whether Clinton had lied or obstructed justice, but nothing could be definitively established beyond the taped recordings because Lewinsky was unwilling to discuss the affair or testify about it. On July 28, 1998, a substantial delay after the public break of the scandal, Lewinsky received transactional immunity in exchange for grand jury testimony concerning her relationship with Clinton.[26] She also turned over a semen-stained blue dress (that Linda Tripp had encouraged her to save without dry cleaning) to the Starr investigators, thereby providing unambiguous DNA evidence that could prove the relationship despite Clinton's official denials.[27]
Clinton admitted in taped grand jury testimony on August 17, 1998, that he had engaged in an "improper physical relationship" with Lewinsky. That evening he gave a nationally televised statement admitting that his relationship with Lewinsky was "not appropriate".[28]"


"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal



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Old 12-08-2017, 05:25 AM
 
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He is the most popular politician in the US:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/x...oll-says-vgtrn

Sanders Is Most Popular US Politician and Trump Is Least Popular | Observer

You think if you say something than it becomes true? Are you Donald Trump or something.
"The results reflect a nationally representative sample. Results were
weighted for age within gender, region, race/ethnicity,
marital status, household size, income, employment, and education'

But NOT by political party.

I wonder why?

And look at the party identification in your 2nd poll

The polled a LOT MORE dems, ind , liberals then repubs and conservatives

What other result would you expect?



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Old 12-08-2017, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I'm surprised that Trump hasn't stepped forward and volunteered to go through with a Lie Detector Test to prove his innocence.

Sociopaths can pass Lie Detector Tests with flying colors!
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:57 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Feel free to post the video, letter, whatever that shows Trump making that statement.

We'll wait.....
Yeah, I'd like to see it myself. If you didn't know better, you'd the democrats are so desperate that they let themselves be conned again, into repeating fake news.
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Old 12-08-2017, 09:07 PM
 
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Bernie is not working with a full deck. Trump was elected after the accusations. So by Bernie's logic Trump should have immediately resigned after winning the election? You can't makes this stuff up.
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Old 12-08-2017, 09:51 PM
 
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Women have always grown up in a society where men were in charge and they were delegated to cook, clean and raise kids. Don't talk, just serve men and do what they asked. If you were too tired to have sex, too bad. Why haven't all women become stronger and not let this kind of behavior still happen to us. Many women voted for Trump after he boasted about groping women among other things. And we have women voting for Moore who's a pedophile. I just don't get it. After all the years women have been suppressed why in the world would anyone not believe them.
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Old 12-09-2017, 05:54 AM
 
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Women have always grown up in a society where men were in charge and they were delegated to cook, clean and raise kids. Don't talk, just serve men and do what they asked. If you were too tired to have sex, too bad. Why haven't all women become stronger and not let this kind of behavior still happen to us. Many women voted for Trump after he boasted about groping women among other things. And we have women voting for Moore who's a pedophile. I just don't get it. After all the years women have been suppressed why in the world would anyone not believe them.
"Women have always grown up in a society where men were in charge"

That had changed ever since the equal Rights bill was signed.

Today's women have the SAME opportunities as men do.

If any woman can't climb up the ladder it is no one else's fault but their own.

Today we have thousands of women who own and run businesses lare and small, are politicians at EVERY level, etc.

" Many women voted for Trump after he boasted about groping women among other things"

Get off your high horse.

I have heard women say a LOT worse things.
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Old 12-09-2017, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Tell me why I simply cannot take Bernie seriously?
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Old 12-09-2017, 08:02 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I wonder when someone's going to do a no holds barred deep dive on Bernie? Maybe if he tries to run again?
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