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Old 12-14-2017, 09:22 AM
 
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How about the ones molested by Protestant priests, Evangelical ministers and Rabis? Are you going to sweep those under the rug?
No, not at all. No more than I would sweep any politicians under the rug either.
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:24 AM
 
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I am still of the opinion that before we ruin someone’s life, we need to see some hard evidence like a picture, recording, email, messages or video.

By the way, Trump’s Access Hollywood tape proved nothing.
That tape showed Trump's blatant lack of respect for women.
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:24 AM
 
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Based upon most of the rabid partisans on the forum the only standard of proof needed is if the accused has the rival parties letter at the end of their name.
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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I am still of the opinion that before we ruin someone’s life, we need to see some hard evidence like a picture, recording, email, messages or video.
There's unlikely to be any hard evidence for this type of thing.

And, as I said earlier, people acting strongly on weak evidence is a huge problem not only in terms of sexual misconduct claims but almost everywhere in society
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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When the accused lies in response to related accusations, they lose credibility.

Take for example Trump:

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"Videos and photos showing President Trump with some of the women who have accused him of sexual misconduct are resurfacing after Trump in a tweet Tuesday said his accusers are "women who I don’t know and/or have never met."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWcjjGBzeMo
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:36 AM
 
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That tape showed Trump's blatant lack of respect for women.
That I agree. I also want to add “lack of respect for some women.”
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:09 AM
 
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When the accused lies in response to related accusations, they lose credibility.

Take for example Trump:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWcjjGBzeMo
Not defending Trump, but to be fair, Trump probably took photos with 20,000+ people. No way in hell a person can remember each photo and a photo shoot can’t be defined as “met.”

To him, “met” means something entirely different.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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It's equally unjust for an innocent person to have their life ruined as it is for a guilty party to go free. Great care should be taken to prevent both.


I've often wondered if the media should not report allegations, as a way to protect all parties unless the accused is convicted, and then report it. Perhaps in higher-profile cases journalists would follow and report the trial, so maybe they would begin to report only following an indictment of the accused. I am sure that there is an issue with this that I'm not seeing. I'm interested in hearing the thoughts of others on this.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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Flirting can be considered sexual harassment these days.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Flirting can be considered sexual harassment these days.
apparently even a man asking for a woman's phone number is sexual harassment.

must be a lot of frustrated, sexless, single folks these days. no wonder so many people are so angry.
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