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Old 12-14-2017, 05:51 AM
 
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Except the vast majority of the complaints from women are false. We are talking about complaints that would ruin someone’s life for good.
Except that the vast majority of the complaints are absolutely true. Fact.
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:53 AM
 
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Except the vast majority of the complaints from women are false. We are talking about complaints that would ruin someone’s life for good.
Can you back up that claim with some facts?
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:55 AM
 
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Except this is completely false. The vast majority of rape or sexual harassment complaints are false.
Wrong. Are you a trained psychologist? Do you work in the field of sexual abuse? Because if not, you can't simply fling random, unsubstantiated assertions and hope they'll stick.
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:55 AM
 
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Except this is completely false. The vast majority of rape or sexual harassment complaints are false.
Second time you made this claim, got some data we can see?
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:57 AM
 
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A link to an AR-15 forum? What on earth are you thinking?

This is the type of "information" many right-wingers depend on: the type that confirms their own prejudices and biases. At this point, expected.
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:57 AM
 
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I am not kidding you! It’s true, and we refuse to address this.

Read this, written by an HR director.

“My department reported those stats (sexual harassment) every month, and 90% of them were BS (woman recanted, proven liar, etc.) Yet each one counted all the same.”

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/...052794/?page=1
The link is not actual data..............
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:58 AM
 
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Here, let me save all the Dem/Leftist/SJW types here some time and answer for them:

You are a sexist bastard, who is complicit with not only harassment, but rape and pedophilia for even the mere suggestion that there should be some type of standard.

No man's life and career is worth furthering toxic male culture.
And if some accusations are false and a few innocent men have to pay the price to further the agenda and serve the collective then that's just too bad. (they're probably guilty of something else anyways, just by virtue of having a penis.....and to make matters worse, odds are they're probably white too)

Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Michele Obama, Kirsten Gillibrand.....or some other yet to be named Liberal with a vagina for president 2020!!!!!!
There's nothing more intellectually lazy than setting up straw men to take down.
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Old 12-14-2017, 06:04 AM
 
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Not from a legal standpoint-I expect that the legal system has reasonably well defined standards. But from a social or societal one. Doesn't matter if the accused is a Democrat or Republican, celebrity or CEO. What is a reasonable standard of proof or evidence to condemn one, to ruin their life and reputation, and their career?

This is not to provide an excuse to abusers or harassers. True perpetrators deserve nothing but contempt and scorn, to be ostracised and fired. Thing is-anyone can make a claim of sexual harassment or abuse at any time. The vast majority of the cases take place behind closed doors and are "he said, she said".

In far too many of these cases it sounds as if these actions were known to co-workers for years, if not decades. Women were warned not to be alone with Mr. X. Why didn't anyone, any of those co-workers go after him? In those cases it seems pretty clearcut-especially with victims coming forward as events happen.

Other cases, not so much. Cases where not a single word is spoken, a single accusation made. Where the alleged perp is respected by co-workers and no rumors exist. Yet....2 weeks before an election a victim (that far too often happens to be working on the campaign of the opposition) pops up and makes a claim. And of course far too often the media runs with those rumors with no efforts to verify the reports.

So, again-what is a reasonable standard? When should alternative motives be questioned-rather for political gain or a fat court settlement? What is a reasonable amount of proof before we accept it and destroy someone's life?
I think your comments are primarily regarding high profile people in entertainment and politics. The much bigger issue is in the workplace. What recourse does someone have if an allegation is made against them? There are plenty of situations where false accusations are made to exact vengeance or out of jealousy or to get back at someone for a wrongdoing. HR departments in companies are not courts of law. Usually there is no recourse for the accused, other than a civil lawsuit, and that's unlikely to prevail if it is a he-said, she-said scenario.
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Old 12-14-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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Except that the vast majority of the complaints are absolutely true. Fact.
That’s a woman poster, too. Just.... wow. SMH.
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:11 AM
 
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That’s a woman poster, too. Just.... wow. SMH.
http://www.city-data.com/blogs/blog4...es-either.html

Truth doesn’t care about gender or race.
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