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Are you sure? I have to wonder if this incident might cause some other thug to think twice and not attempt a robbery he was planning. If so, lives might have been saved indirectly because this particular thug got shot.
Or it could cause a thug to be more fearful in a holdup (and be quicker to shoot the people he is robbing if they make any sudden movements.)
They are usually not out to commit murder. They usually want not to shoot. Just for the gun to ensure demands are met and make a quick getaway to buy their drugs or whatever they want the money for.
If about 20% of the population were armed he wouldn't get very far in that holdup, and he would know that. Unless he was on a suicide mission he would choose something else to do that day.
"The latest report says 6.06% of the adult population now has a concealed carry permit. But these numbers may underestimate the rate of carry because 11 states no longer require a permit (these are called “constitutional carry” states)."
"It’s probably safe to say that 90% of Americans don’t carry a gun.
This particular statistic of how much more likely you are to have the gun used against you, blah, blah, blah, was found to have been fudged quite a while ago. I forget exactly what methodology was used and how the numbers were compiled, but it was debunked long ago. That Mother Jones continues to use old, non-factual reports to further an agenda, means you should question whether anything gun related that they print is accurate.
Do you believe a gun in the American population is more likely to do A. or B.?
A. Shoot a criminal.
B. Accidentally shoot a friend or family member, accidently shoot a child who is playing with the gun, accidently shoot someone who was thought to be a criminal, shoot someone in a hunting accident, be used to commit suicide, kill someone in a argument, kill someone in a robbery, be used to kill ones spouse, be used to kill ones coworkers, be used to kill opposing gang members, be used in a mass murder.
Do you believe a gun in the American population is more likely to do A. or B.?
A. Shoot a criminal.
B. Accidentally shoot a friend or family member, accidently shoot a child who is playing with the gun, accidently shoot someone who was thought to be a criminal, shoot someone in a hunting accident, be used to commit suicide, kill someone in a argument, kill someone in a robbery, be used to kill ones spouse, be used to kill ones coworkers, be used to kill opposing gang members, be used in a mass murder.
B. But the question is irrelevant.
B is a stupid reason to collect America's guns. Just like with the subject of this thread, with guns removed from America THAT THUG WOULD HAVE STILL USED A GUN IN THAT ATTEMPTED ROBBERY! Except that he would still be alive, poised for the next robbery, and innocent people might be dead.
The majority of the people you listed in B would have still killed or caused their mayhem even if they had no gun. If someone wants to kill someone they will find a way to do it. You can't ban everything that is capable of killing. The gun-free Utopia you seek DOES NOT EXIST.
On the other hand, if over the last 50 years trained, armed citizens were in the schools, theaters, churches, and all the other gun free zones, the number of people saved from crazed gunmen committing mass murders is staggering.
If you want to try to make a point, please at least make a relevant one.
Well in this case yes but there has also been times where others have chosen to not take action for good reason, it may endanger others. Each situation is different and sometimes it turned out for the worse. Businesses certainly don't want employees getting involved, they are always told to let it go. Most felons just want the money, they are not interested in murder.
Yeah, a person pointing a gun at you to take your property wouldn’t think of being a bad person and shooting you. They are merely doing their jobs as responsible employees in the thug industry.
Do you believe a gun in the American population is more likely to do A. or B.?
A. Shoot a criminal.
B. Accidentally shoot a friend or family member, accidently shoot a child who is playing with the gun, accidently shoot someone who was thought to be a criminal, shoot someone in a hunting accident, be used to commit suicide, kill someone in a argument, kill someone in a robbery, be used to kill ones spouse, be used to kill ones coworkers, be used to kill opposing gang members, be used in a mass murder.
How many people have life insurance at this moment?
How many of those people are going to die this moment?
There are 300 million guns in the US. If 1 out of a 1,000 accidentally kill someone each year, we’d have 300,000 people accidentally killed by guns each year. It seems the odds of accidentally being killed are incredibly low. But that’s just math.
Too bad permission has to asked from the overlords to carry a gun on your person or in your car. Anyone who wants to carry, should be able to carry, no questions asked.
Too bad permission has to asked from the overlords to carry a gun on your person or in your car. Anyone who wants to carry, should be able to carry, no questions asked.
There is at least one exception I can think of.
If you are sentenced to 20 years in prison for a crime and the state is making a deal with you to release you 5 years early, they can have no gun as part of that deal for the next five years. As a convict, you can refuse the offer, do your full 20’and then have a gun after you’ve done your full time.
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