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Police are rarely prosecuted for shootings in most countries, as many are split second decisions. However in this case it seems the mans pants were coming down as he crawled across the florr and he was merely adjusting them, and the police officer thought he was reaching for a gun in his pants.
Another very good reason to have as little to do with the police as possible.
Sadly due to international terrorism more and more police are carrying more and more guns, and the weapons the police use are becoming more and more powerful and this is the case even in places which don't traditionally have armed police should as the UK and Norway.
(sigh) How many times are you going to say "manner consistent with reaching for a weapon?" We get it.
Evidently, you don't. EVERY jurisdiction has upholded the by the book LEOs action in response to a movement consistent with reaching for a weapon. Shooting is justified.
The cops didn't know that the guy was even the person they were looking for.
Indeed, they did. Find a source that recounts the ENTIRE chain of events, not just the selectively edited crap the MSM peddles to and is eaten up by the cognitively challenged.
Police are rarely prosecuted for shootings in most countries, as many are split second decisions. However in this case it seems the mans pants were coming down as he crawled across the florr and he was merely adjusting them, and the police officer thought he was reaching for a gun in his pants.
Police are rarely prosecuted for shootings in most countries, as many are split second decisions. However in this case it seems the mans pants were coming down as he crawled across the florr and he was merely adjusting them, and the police officer thought he was reaching for a gun in his pants.
Another very good reason to have as little to do with the police as possible.
Sadly due to international terrorism more and more police are carrying more and more guns, and the weapons the police use are becoming more and more powerful and this is the case even in places which don't traditionally have armed police should as the UK and Norway.
Ironically here in the US the odds of being shot by a cop are much greater than any terrorist threat. All they have to do here is pee a little in their pants,claim officer safety, and bang you're dead
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Absolutely agree. Ane BTW, that would include NOT pointing a scoped firearm out a hotel window.
Agreed - it would be on my list of things not to do, however it states in the srticle that the pellet guns were to do with his pest control job. Although not sure why he was pointing one out of a window.
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Originally Posted by The Guardian
While no gun was found on Shaver’s body, two pellet rifles related to his pest-control job were later found in his room.
The detective investigating the shooting had agreed Shaver’s movement was similar to reaching for a pistol, but said it also looked as though Shaver was pulling up his loose-fitting basketball shorts that had fallen down as he was ordered to crawl toward officers.
The investigator noted he did not see anything that would have prevented officers from simply handcuffing Shaver as he was on the floor.
Brailsford’s attorney Michael Piccarreta put an arm around his client after the verdict was read.
“There are no winners in this case, but Mitch Brailsford had to make a split-second decision on a situation that he was trained to recognize as someone drawing a weapon and had one second to react,” Piccarreta said. “He didn’t want to harm Mr Shaver ... The circumstances that night that were presented led him to conclude that he was in danger. Try to make a decision in one second, life or death. It’s pretty hard.”
Ironically here in the US the odds of being shot by a cop are much greater than any terrorist threat.
It's sad, however with so much access to guns in the US, I can understand the police being cautious however there are sadly some dreadful mistakes on a regular basis.
No suspect is cuffed before being cleared as unarmed. Guess why?
So you think that screaming hysterically, giving absurd and contradictory commands, and making death threats is a good way to handle this kind of situation. I assume you're not a cop. Thank god for that.
So you think that screaming hysterically, giving absurd and contradictory commands, and making death threats is a good way to handle this kind of situation. I assume you're not a cop. Thank god for that.
There was never any order given to reach for his waist, a movement similar to reaching for a weapon.
Can't say that enough times.
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