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Old 12-08-2017, 10:31 AM
 
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Sad, but true!

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A lot of good, honorable Republicans used to believe there was a safe middle ground. You didn’t have to tie yourself hip to hip with Donald Trump, but you didn’t have to go all the way to the other extreme and commit political suicide like the dissident Jeff Flake, either. You could sort of float along in the middle, and keep your head down until this whole Trump thing passed.

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Old 12-08-2017, 10:45 AM
 
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I saw the above op-ed from David Brooks (formerly a reporter for the Washington Times and formerly op-editor for the Wall Street Journal) elsewhere on the web this morning.

I think that he's definitely correct that there's a war within the GOP for the soul of the party..and the Trump faction seems to be winning.

But I also believe that the Democratic Party is also in dire straights itself, with their own internal conflicts between the progressive and centrist wings, although I do believe that the Republican conflict is running much hotter.

We may be watching another turnover in the United States party system.

Last edited by djmilf; 12-08-2017 at 11:06 AM.. Reason: clarification of Brooks' career
 
Old 12-08-2017, 10:49 AM
 
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Meanwhile every single Democrat is joined at the hip over every single stupid thing no matter if it's real or fake.
 
Old 12-08-2017, 10:49 AM
 
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Newsflash: both parties are rotten to the core and always have been.
 
Old 12-08-2017, 10:51 AM
 
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"Now it’s clear that middle ground doesn’t exist. That’s because Donald Trump never stops asking. First, he asked the party to swallow the idea of a narcissistic sexual harasser and a routine liar as its party leader. Then he asked the party to accept his comprehensive ignorance and his politics of racial division. Now he asks the party to give up its reputation for fiscal conservatism. At the same time he asks the party to become the party of Roy Moore, the party of bigotry, alleged sexual harassment and child assault."

Trump's life has always been one of bending rules and pushing the envelope to see what he can get away with. It's part of his game and the GOP has fallen for it just like they fell for the hostile take-over of the party. There's no place left to hide if you are in the GOP --- just a pawn in the game. And don't be surprised...it's a blame game and you are the one at fault if things go bad. Trump is always without blame.
 
Old 12-08-2017, 10:52 AM
 
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Newsflash: both parties are rotten to the core and always have been.
You beat me to it
 
Old 12-08-2017, 10:54 AM
 
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There's a new sheriff in town, and he's fixing the mess created by the Bush, and Obama administration, get over it.
 
Old 12-08-2017, 10:56 AM
 
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I think that he's definitely correct that there's a war within the GOP for the soul of the party..and the Trump faction seems to be winning. [snip] We may be watching another turnover in the United States party system.
Very good observation. I read somewhere -- sorry, no link -- that the reason McConnell, Ryan and the party apparatus won't stand up to Trump because they are worried that if they do, Trump will just abandon the GOP and start his own party. A big sudden bold move like that is certainly possible from Trump. He'd probably take 100 congressmen with him.
 
Old 12-08-2017, 11:15 AM
 
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Typically, most undesirables find it easy to support and hide their immoralities by joining those in control. It's easy with the Republicans since most are undesirables from the start.

Racist whites are fighting for survival. This is only going to get worst with statistics showing whites becoming less and less of the population. Let's face it, the racist won 2017 because minorities and liberal whites underestimated white hatred and fear. The part to come is seeing how Asians, Hispanics, Indian American, and Arabic people will get their blunt share of it.
 
Old 12-08-2017, 11:17 AM
 
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Meanwhile every single Democrat is joined at the hip over every single stupid thing no matter if it's real or fake.
You just described yourself.
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