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Old 01-04-2018, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Surprised this isn't here yet.

Jeff Sessions the Trump appointed Attorney General will announce today that he is rescinding a trio of memos from the Obama administration that adopted a policy of non-interference with marijuana-friendly state laws.

Sessions to rescind Obama-era rules on non-interference with states where pot is legal - CNNPolitics

Too much freedom for those States evidently!
There is no such thing as "legal marijuana" at the federal level. All Sessions is doing is his job-enforcing the law. I agree-the law is stupid. But change the law-don't blame the guy doing his job. This isn't the Obama administration where the president just arbitrarily decides what laws to enforce.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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The Trump administration is doomed to die attempting to take this mountain. I don't personally use MJ and have no desire to do so, but it is big business in those states where it is legal. The president needs to call off his AG before this issue explodes. It's not in his best interests to push ahead.
I doubt this. Evangelicals are ecstatic about this. Much of the 35% of so of the population that still supports Trump approves of this decision. Unfortunately I think there is little we can do about it until we can get a Democratic congress and a Democratic President to legalize it at the federal level.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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The Trump administration is doomed to die attempting to take this mountain. I don't personally use MJ and have no desire to do so, but it is big business in those states where it is legal. The president needs to call off his AG before this issue explodes. It's not in his best interests to push ahead.
I feel simiarily - I don't smoke, or want to smoke, MJ. But I don't care if others do. It's no worse or better than cigarettes or alcohol.

Legalize it and regulate it. It's already basically legal and regulated in many states - just make it official already. This issue has huge support from all sides politically.


Support increases for marijuana legalization | Pew Research Center
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Today, 57% of U.S. adults say the use of marijuana should be made legal, while 37% say it should be illegal.

This will come back to bite the President in the butt very hard if he doesn't put a stop to this.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:41 PM
 
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There is no such thing as "legal marijuana" at the federal level. All Sessions is doing is his job-enforcing the law. I agree-the law is stupid. But change the law-don't blame the guy doing his job. This isn't the Obama administration where the president just arbitrarily decides what laws to enforce.
No you are not correct.
The Cole memo, provided legal grounds/ legal cover for Federal prosecutors to refrain from prosecuting federal marijuana laws from States that legislated it's use.

Jeff Sessions is removing that legal ground.

He and the Trump administration could just have easily removed marijuana from the list of federally proscribed substances.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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"Republican Senator Cory Gardner of Colorado torches Jeff Sessions over reversal"

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b06d1621bde005


I have never smoked pot in my life, but if the states voted for it, the feds should leave them alone.
Ha I love it. Sooner or later the rest of the country will wise up to just how backward politicians from the South are (Republican ones of course since they only have one party rule down there).
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:52 PM
 
Location: NY
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The Trump administration is doomed to die attempting to take this mountain. I don't personally use MJ and have no desire to do so, but it is big business in those states where it is legal. The president needs to call off his AG before this issue explodes. It's not in his best interests to push ahead.
I don't know about that. People understand the need for medical marijuana and overwhelmingly support it's use, especially with doctors cutting back on opiates. Recreational use is another matter. And like it or not...it's still against the law and the Trump administration could make life difficult for the big pot producers, especially California, the newly proclaimed sanctuary state.

Don't be surprised to see some horse trading soon, CA needs the revenue from pot production which gives DC some leverage.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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Today, 57% of U.S. adults say the use of marijuana should be made legal, while 37% say it should be illegal.
Support increases for marijuana legalization | Pew Research Center



This will come back to bite the President in the butt very hard if he doesn't put a stop to this.
Your data is old:

It was 57% in Oct. 2016 (your link)

It was 61% in Apr. 2017 (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/support...all-time-high/)

It was 64% in Oct. 2017 (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ization-244155)

Obviously, climbing rapidly. This move by Sessions will make it climb even higher as more people decide enough is enough.
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Old 01-04-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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No one claimed black market weed would disappear over night.

Similar to when prohibition lifted, it didn't make moonshine disappear overnight either.
The black market in weed was NEVER going to disappear. Period. And it didn't. Period. Anybody who thought it would disappear probably believes in Skittles-pooping purple unicorns, frankly.

The black market in weed thrives like never before because it has a sizable price advantage over legal weed, which bears its share of taxes, thus increasing its cost relative to illegal weed, which has no such costs to account for.

The 21st Amendment, also, didn't make moonshiners quit the biz, either. Period. Like the black market weed operators, the moonshiners have a price advantage (hence an opportunity for greater profit) over legal distillers who pay for the required tax stamps. The bootleg distillers never went away, and they aren't going to, either, irrespective of whether or not legal distillers are allowed to operate or not. Which is not to say that some factions that dealt in bootlegging didn't move into other lines of business after the repeal of Prohibition. But there were still thousands of individual moonshiners in Appalachia who were operating both prior to and after the repeal of Prohibition, and the descendants of many of them are still in business today.
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Old 01-04-2018, 02:02 PM
 
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Surprised this isn't here yet.

Jeff Sessions the Trump appointed Attorney General will announce today that he is rescinding a trio of memos from the Obama administration that adopted a policy of non-interference with marijuana-friendly state laws.

Sessions to rescind Obama-era rules on non-interference with states where pot is legal - CNNPolitics

Too much freedom for those States evidently!
Firstly I'm for legalization but ignoring the law is not the way to go about it. We have a legislative process in place to do that and it should be followed. It's not up to Sessions, the previous AG's, Trump or Obama to decide what laws to enforce. Don't like it? Get it changed.
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Old 01-04-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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But there were still thousands of individual moonshiners in Appalachia who were operating both prior to and after the repeal of Prohibition, and the descendants of many of them are still in business today.
Which is irrelevant. When was the last time a problem with moonshiners was in the news?

And what about your neighborhood schools? Is alcohol (or even moonshine) for sale in your kid's school right now? (Hint: No) Is pot for sale in your kid's school right now? (Hint: Yes)

That condition is a direct result of prohibition.
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