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Old 12-11-2017, 07:41 AM
 
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There's no other thing in america that turns otherwise nonviolent law abiding citizens with no criminal record into criminals than marijuana use.

When you compare it to alcohol use, it doesn't cause metabolic syndrome, buildup of fat in the liver, GERD and gastritis, or have any calories that contribute to weight gain in general.

There are no hangovers. You smoke it, achieve the altered state of consciousness, and then it wears off.. no fuss, no muss. It should be legalized nationwide. It's no more or less addicting than food, sex, or any other vice. I'd imagine it could get expensive though at the levels some people claim they smoke it. An ounce would last me 6 months, as I'm a cheapskate and I'm not going to spend more than $50/month on mind altering substances.

I suspect it's not just the prison industrial complex and the religious right that want to keep it illegal, I'd imagine there's pressure from the alcohol industry as it would most definitely cut into alcohol sales. I would stop using alcohol for the most part (aside from perhaps craft beers) if I had access to high quality strains.

For people who like fine wines, fine cheeses, craft beers, and great cigars, marijuana would fit in perfectly. It's a very sophisticated drug for people who appreciate the finer things in life, simply because of the variety of strains and the subtle differences in tastes, effects, and the like.

I have cops tell me they'd rather deal with people stoned versus people drunk. Though I've never driven stoned, I've been told it's far easier to do so than while drunk.
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Old 12-11-2017, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Well folks, this is it. Jeff Sessions has a chance to either stand up for what he's always believed in, or to make a fool of himself.

Jeff Sessions, for decades, has been a major supporter of state's rights and for the federal gov't to stay out of state business.

Well, the state of Colorado voted for the legalization of marijuana in 2012. Will Jeff Sessions contradict his "leave states alone" message that he pounded for over 20 years and go against his word by having the federal gov't interfere with state business!?

We'll have to wait and see.
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Old 12-11-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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This is why I never liked Sessions as the choice for AG. He has proven to be uncharacteristically timid in his approach to his job on most issues, but with marijuana the old pit bull returns. There are some social conservatives that have "reefer madness" etched in to their brains and there's nothing you can do to get them to shake it. Sessions is one of them. He is turning American citizens in to criminals for doing nothing worse than what anyone who watches a football game with a beer in his hand has done.
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Old 12-11-2017, 07:56 AM
 
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There's no other thing in america that turns otherwise nonviolent law abiding citizens with no criminal record into criminals than marijuana use.

When you compare it to alcohol use, it doesn't cause metabolic syndrome, buildup of fat in the liver, GERD and gastritis, or have any calories that contribute to weight gain in general.

There are no hangovers. You smoke it, achieve the altered state of consciousness, and then it wears off.. no fuss, no muss. It should be legalized nationwide. It's no more or less addicting than food, sex, or any other vice. I'd imagine it could get expensive though at the levels some people claim they smoke it. An ounce would last me 6 months, as I'm a cheapskate and I'm not going to spend more than $50/month on mind altering substances.

I suspect it's not just the prison industrial complex and the religious right that want to keep it illegal, I'd imagine there's pressure from the alcohol industry as it would most definitely cut into alcohol sales. I would stop using alcohol for the most part (aside from perhaps craft beers) if I had access to high quality strains.

For people who like fine wines, fine cheeses, craft beers, and great cigars, marijuana would fit in perfectly. It's a very sophisticated drug for people who appreciate the finer things in life, simply because of the variety of strains and the subtle differences in tastes, effects, and the like.

I have cops tell me they'd rather deal with people stoned versus people drunk. Though I've never driven stoned, I've been told it's far easier to do so than while drunk.
Not a single word in that post that I don't agree with entirely.
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Old 12-11-2017, 08:17 AM
 
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The more likely reason Sessions will back off is because this not just an issue that affects liberals. Republicans are investing in the marijuana industry, too, and have no desire to enrich the Mexican cartels and not themselves.

Most Americans now realize weed isn't the harmful substance that some have demonized.

And, oh yeah--an unregulated free market supplying something in great demand doesn't hurt.$$$$

https://www.wealthdaily.com/articles...-cannabis/8758

https://herb.co/2017/10/31/republica...-legalization/
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Old 12-11-2017, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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There's no other thing in america that turns otherwise nonviolent law abiding citizens with no criminal record into criminals than marijuana use.

When you compare it to alcohol use, it doesn't cause metabolic syndrome, buildup of fat in the liver, GERD and gastritis, or have any calories that contribute to weight gain in general.

There are no hangovers. You smoke it, achieve the altered state of consciousness, and then it wears off.. no fuss, no muss. It should be legalized nationwide. It's no more or less addicting than food, sex, or any other vice. I'd imagine it could get expensive though at the levels some people claim they smoke it. An ounce would last me 6 months, as I'm a cheapskate and I'm not going to spend more than $50/month on mind altering substances.

I suspect it's not just the prison industrial complex and the religious right that want to keep it illegal, I'd imagine there's pressure from the alcohol industry as it would most definitely cut into alcohol sales. I would stop using alcohol for the most part (aside from perhaps craft beers) if I had access to high quality strains.

For people who like fine wines, fine cheeses, craft beers, and great cigars, marijuana would fit in perfectly. It's a very sophisticated drug for people who appreciate the finer things in life, simply because of the variety of strains and the subtle differences in tastes, effects, and the like.

I have cops tell me they'd rather deal with people stoned versus people drunk. Though I've never driven stoned, I've been told it's far easier to do so than while drunk.
Hech of a post.

I'm anxious to see if any anti-weed people would argue with anything you just said.
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Old 12-11-2017, 01:28 PM
 
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Hech of a post.

I'm anxious to see if any anti-weed people would argue with anything you just said.
I'm pro legalization and while the post doesn't quite go there, one should never try in any way shape or form defend driving while stoned.

It's not as bad as driving drunk should never be noted. We should be adamant that one never drives after participating.
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Old 12-11-2017, 01:37 PM
 
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I predict the feds won't do anything about recreational pot. In 5 to 10 years it will be legal in the majority of states and the federal government will soon follow. They should just give the power to the states on whether to allow or not. A state like Oklahoma will most likely never legalize it because they (politicians and the church) love to control their citizens.
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Old 12-11-2017, 01:39 PM
 
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There's no other thing in america that turns otherwise nonviolent law abiding citizens with no criminal record into criminals than marijuana use.

When you compare it to alcohol use, it doesn't cause metabolic syndrome, buildup of fat in the liver, GERD and gastritis, or have any calories that contribute to weight gain in general.

There are no hangovers. You smoke it, achieve the altered state of consciousness, and then it wears off.. no fuss, no muss. It should be legalized nationwide. It's no more or less addicting than food, sex, or any other vice. I'd imagine it could get expensive though at the levels some people claim they smoke it. An ounce would last me 6 months, as I'm a cheapskate and I'm not going to spend more than $50/month on mind altering substances.

I suspect it's not just the prison industrial complex and the religious right that want to keep it illegal, I'd imagine there's pressure from the alcohol industry as it would most definitely cut into alcohol sales. I would stop using alcohol for the most part (aside from perhaps craft beers) if I had access to high quality strains.

For people who like fine wines, fine cheeses, craft beers, and great cigars, marijuana would fit in perfectly. It's a very sophisticated drug for people who appreciate the finer things in life, simply because of the variety of strains and the subtle differences in tastes, effects, and the like.

I have cops tell me they'd rather deal with people stoned versus people drunk. Though I've never driven stoned, I've been told it's far easier to do so than while drunk.
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Old 12-11-2017, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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I'm pro legalization and while the post doesn't quite go there, one should never try in any way shape or form defend driving while stoned.

It's not as bad as driving drunk should never be noted. We should be adamant that one never drives after participating.
Good lord no LOL.

My wife and I smoke sometimes on weekends (I'm in Colorado, it's legal here), and we always make sure we're in the house for the evening when we light up. Never, ever drive under the influence.

Safety first.
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