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I am for allowing transgenders to serve. I am against allowing them to have gender reassignment surgery during their enlistment, or paying for it with military funds. They can serve and then afterward get it done on their own time.
My reason isn't punitive. My reason is that the surgery is invasive and debilitating for extended time. The unit they are assigned to are forced to work short handed, and that compromises the unit integrity and effectiveness.
When I was in elective surgery wasn't allowed and for that reason.
I am for allowing transgenders to serve. I am against allowing them to have gender reassignment surgery during their enlistment, or paying for it with military funds. They can serve and then afterward get it done on their own time.
My reason isn't punitive. My reason is that the surgery is invasive and debilitating for extended time. The unit they are assigned to are forced to work short handed, and that compromises the unit integrity and effectiveness.
When I was in elective surgery wasn't allowed and for that reason.
We send thousands of our young men and women to places that have no business being in to lose their arms, legs, mental health and lives. I'm not going to get upset if two or three lose other appendages.
Every group that has wanted inclusion has been granted inclusions. The same will happen here. It's really a complete non point at that since we may be talking a hand full of people.
Sorry, pre-op transgenders aren't getting in, that's for sure. The courts have no jurisdiction over the military. That is reserved to Congress and the President.
Of course, Congress could always take up this issue. That would be amusing. The Democrats would freak out, having to put their votes on the record.
And, because they would know the political consequences of openly and publicly voting for pre-op transgenders in the military, they would ask Republicans to kill the bill, and that would be the end of it -- just as it is on so many other controversial issues that the Democrats "support" except when it counts. Like "immigration reform" (read amnesty) during Obama's first two years in office.
They are treated equally. If they are allowed to join, then it is special treatment. No one has this type of pre-existing conditions should join the military.
I agree. Just the hormone treatments alone are very expensive, and trans people have very high rates of mental illness and commit suicide at far higher rates than the general population.
We shouldn't allow them in the military because of their medical expenses and their far-higher risk of mental instability.
(Full disclosure: I argued in favor of gay marriage for 20 years.)
Every group that has wanted inclusion has been granted inclusions. The same will happen here. It's really a complete non point at that since we may be talking a hand full of people.
Then please explain why
Every branch of service has a maximum age limit to join the military.
Regardless of Federal Law, the military services are allowed to impose more strict standards, and many of them have. The maximum age for non-prior service enlistments for each service is:
Active Duty Army - 42
Army Reserves - 42
Army National Guard - 42
Active Duty Air Force - 39
Air Force Reserve - 35
Air National Guard - 40
Active Duty Navy - 34
Navy Reserves - 39 Active Duty Marines - 28 Marine Corps Reserves - 29
Active Duty Coast Guard - 27
Coast Guard Reserves - 39
Some Special Operations Age Limits
Notice the Marine Corps age limit, why is that? Is it age discrimination? How about this? How about letting everybody over 50 to join the military as long as they can do the job? How about that?
"Federal judge on Monday denied the Trump administration’s request to delay an order requiring the military to begin accepting transgender recruits starting Jan. 1, saying the argument for more time seemed based on “vague claims.”
“The Court is not persuaded that Defendants will be irreparably injured by” meeting the New Year’s Day deadline, U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly wrote."
Transgender people receiving the therapies and drugs are NON-DEPLOYABLE, and they are not a asset to the military
the military is constantly kicking people to the curb if they are broken and non-deployable
it is the standard.....it can not change....otherwise is would be more fraud and waste that everyone complains about the military and its budget
bold = excellent point.
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