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View Poll Results: Should females be allowed to have a choice to abort a fetus?
Yes 276 85.71%
No 46 14.29%
Voters: 322. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-01-2018, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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The facts of biology means that men get one decision point if they don't want to risk having an unplanned pregnancy and being potentially responsible, maybe two if you include using male contraception although of course condoms aren't fool proof.

Women have multiple decision points with the reality that biology means they are the ones to conceive and carry a pregnancy should one occur.

And it seems like some men have a grudge about this that they can't let go of. Whether they intend for it or not, it comes across as sour grapes that they don't get to control what women do.

But that is both the law and the custom in our society. Feel free to seek out more patriarchal societies where men do maintain more control over women. But you will also find that they don't have dating including sexual intimacy among unmarried couples in those societies.

Maybe try building your fantasy "men get to have all the no strings attached sex they want but still get to control what women do" utopias. But you might want to set aside a lot of money to pay for sex cyborgs because you aren't going to find too many flesh and blood women who are going to buy into it.

 
Old 01-01-2018, 12:31 PM
 
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The facts of biology means that men get one decision point if they don't want to risk having an unplanned pregnancy and being potentially responsible, maybe two if you include using male contraception although of course condoms aren't fool proof.

Women have multiple decision points with the reality that biology means they are the ones to conceive and carry a pregnancy should one occur.

And it seems like some men have a grudge about this that they can't let go of. Whether they intend for it or not, it comes across as sour grapes that they don't get to control what women do.
The problem is that women have a history of using this to try and trap men...there are even cases of women trying to hold sperm donors be held accountable
 
Old 01-01-2018, 12:36 PM
 
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Funny thing about that sentiment is those of you who are like that aren't the ones we want to have sex with anyway! We want the good looking feminine women, not the Rosie O feminazis.
Who is "we"?
 
Old 01-01-2018, 12:39 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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Funny thing about that sentiment is those of you who are like that aren't the ones we want to have sex with anyway! We want the good looking feminine women, not the Rosie O feminazis.
It's cute that you think what you want in a mate is relevant to the larger debate.
 
Old 01-01-2018, 12:45 PM
 
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Funny thing about that sentiment is those of you who are like that aren't the ones we want to have sex with anyway! We want the good looking feminine women, not the Rosie O feminazis.
You give yourself away with the fatboy misogynistic Limbaugh term feminazi. What makes you think any self-respecting "good looking feminine women" are looking to have sex with Neanderthals?
 
Old 01-01-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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Or women to keep their legs closed...
Or, women can have sex in whichever position they like (the phrase "keep her legs closed" always speaks volumes about a person's character and sexual experience, none of it good btw)and if they get pregnant they can either have a baby that is entitled to child support, or terminate the pregnancy. No matter how Much people on the internet whine about these choices.
 
Old 01-01-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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What makes you think any self-respecting "good looking feminine women" are looking to have sex with Neanderthals?
Other than life experiences? Maybe you will listen to what lesbian feminist Norah Vincent has to say on the matter...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip7kP_dd6LU
 
Old 01-01-2018, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Yes, women should be allowed to abort a fetus, just like she should be allowed to sell her body for sex. It should be her body, her choice! Funny how the government likes to cherry pick what we are allowed or not allowed to do with our own bodies.
 
Old 01-01-2018, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Yes, women should be allowed to abort a fetus, just like she should be allowed to sell her body for sex. It should be her body, her choice! Funny how the government likes to cherry pick what we are allowed or not allowed to do with our own bodies.
There are plenty of women who think that prostitution should be legal, you know that right?
Here are some of the arguments why - an article that happens to have been written by a woman

Why America Should Legalize Prostitution - Business Insider

But that's not really on topic for this discussion other than the very general theme of women having control over their own bodies. But this thread isn't about the government regulating the right to abortion, it's about men thinking their opinions should be controlling over what women do.
 
Old 01-01-2018, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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The problem is that women have a history of using this to try and trap men...there are even cases of women trying to hold sperm donors be held accountable
And men have a history of raping women and children. Should we go ahead and castrate all of them right now?
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