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Old 12-17-2017, 07:39 PM
 
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The argument is that taxation is theft but here you argue that a tax is not theft. A tax is a tax is a tax.
I qualified it by stating taxes on earnings and property is theft.
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Old 12-17-2017, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I qualified it by stating taxes on earnings and property is theft.
Sales tax is theft too.

Unless I can sell my goods and services that I rightfully own using the currency of my choice without facing a cage...it's theft.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:02 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Sales tax is theft too.

Unless I can sell my goods and services that I rightfully own using the currency of my choice without facing a cage...it's theft.

I will agree, taxing your inventory is theft.

A value added tax, taxes everyone equally that wants the service or product. It wears a blindfold, so it cannot see if you walked up off the buss, or drove up in a Mercedes.

A tax based upon class warfare, is Marxism. Pit the poor against the rich.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Taxation is the price of civilization. You don’t like it, move to Somalia.
Do you guys have some sort of script that you're supposed to recite? I swear people say this almost word for word every time taxes are criticized.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Do you guys have some sort of script that you're supposed to recite? I swear people say this almost word for word every time taxes are criticized.
Roads, Somalia, who will protect us?

...must be a chip implanted into their brains at birth.

You know, right after they sign the social contract.

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Old 12-17-2017, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Roads, Somalia, who will protect us?

...must be a chip implanted into their brains at birth.

You know, right after they sign the social contract.

If you don't like the chip implants, you can GET OUT. It's the price of civilized society I tell you.
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Old 12-18-2017, 12:37 AM
 
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I qualified it by stating taxes on earnings and property is theft.
All taxes are taxes on what you earn. You are simply arguing for another complicated system that would still take one's earnings.
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Old 12-18-2017, 12:40 AM
 
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Do you guys have some sort of script that you're supposed to recite? I swear people say this almost word for word every time taxes are criticized.
I've never advocated anyone move in any conversation about anything. All are entitled to their opinions. I'm still waiting for someone to advocate for a program that would actually work in today's society. I'm not interested in some 19th century society.
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Old 12-18-2017, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It has played a role.
How's the role working out? Government spending our money wisely on roads? I mean they spend it wisely elsewhere right?
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Old 12-18-2017, 03:54 AM
 
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How's the role working out? Government spending our money wisely on roads? I mean they spend it wisely elsewhere right?
No, often times they do not. I have addressed his many times. Private corporations never do corrupt things also? Everything a private corporation or business does is to the benefit of society?

I at least can acknowledge that the government is often times corrupt and have called out those who refuse to condemn it when it is and refuse to hold accountable politicians whose job it is to be accountable for this.

Enron, Goldman Sachs, Countrywide......these are what we should look to as good examples?
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