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Old 12-20-2017, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I just got back from a week in Sweden and share your sentiment.

Have some of these posters even left the US? Yikes.

Newsflash: Stockholm is still SUPER white. Don't get your panties in a knot about it, kids.
Did you go outside of Stockholm? Did you see the Muslim refugee camps, and separate enclaves in which they live? Guess not.
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Old 12-20-2017, 08:19 AM
 
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I was there on a work trip meeting with scientists (largely foreign), universities, the Jewish community, and businesses all across the Stockholm metro. I've also lived in Scandinavia as well as a so called "no-go zone" in London (the East End). Wore the same Star of David through it all and got less crap about it (as in, well, none) than I do traveling to other regions of the US.

I also have a lot of friends there, including an Israeli-Swede who does express some concerns about migration and the rising tide of antisemitism. You know what he's more afraid of? Antisemitism getting swept into the rising tide of nationalism. Look at what just happened in Poland.

You know what they say about assumptions, doll.

Your anectdotal evidence is cute and quaint. But across Europe, Jews are increasingly the target of anti-semitic attacks and discomfort.... and it's not the "natives" that are the root cause --- It's ISLAM, stupids.

Most all report that they are in fear - not of "nationalism" - but of the rapid rise of Muslims and Islamization of the continent.

Jewish and Muslim Relations in Europe and America worsening: Jewish

It it Time for the Jews to Leave Europe?: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...europe/386279/

Barcelona's Chief Rabbi Urges Jews to Move to Israel because "Europe is Lost":

Barcelona's chief rabbi urges Jews to move to Israel because 'Europe is lost' | The Independent

French Intellectuals Decry Cover up of Jews Slaying by Muslim Neighbor:

French intellectuals decry 'cover-up' of Jew

Rising Anti-Semitism in Europe: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/abrah...b_7835610.html


You and your "Jewish friend" are worried about "nationalists" in Europe when there is basically ZERO safe places for Jews to live ANYWHERE that Muslims are a majority of the population. Be careful what you wish for when you discuss the multi-cultural future of Europe!


ASSumptions, indeed. Your friend, like you, need to open your eyes and understand that everyone else around them is experiencing and perceiving something far, far different.
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Old 12-20-2017, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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Anyone thinking that Russia Today and Infowars publishes correct facts isn´t right in their heads.

This is the truth:

Facts about migration and crime in Sweden - Government.se

https://www.bra.se/bra-in-english/ho...tatistics.html

The Sweden Democrats have never been number one in any polls except their own.

Novus/SVT 30 november: MP ökar och M planar ut - Novus
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Old 12-20-2017, 08:44 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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That's completely off topic. The OP claimed that Sweden is raising its retirement age because they need more money to pay for crime and welfare of Muslim immigrants. That's completely untrue. If it weren't for immigrants in Sweden, Sweden's age structure would be even older than it is now, and they would have even more of a need to raise the retirement age, not less.
so each refugee costs $58K per year, but are somehow bailing the country out of their age crisis and keeping them from having to retire even later? how does that work, exactly?

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"Refugees Will Cost Sweden $18.6 Billion This Year - 9.3x Over Budget"

https://nationaleconomicseditorial.c...nt-crime-cost/

Per the article:

"That’s just over $58,490 per refugee per year. For reference, the average Swedish household’s disposable income is only $28,859 USD per year." They are Syrian refugees.
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