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Some folks knew it from day 1, it's part of the historical record of the US Constitutional Convention.
The bottom line is by taking down statues, and monuments, and banning symbols, Progressives are removing KNOWLEDGE. Whether it is a reflection of good, or not so good, it is still knowledge, and knowledge is important to remembering the past, and not repeating past failure, but also learning from past successes.
Memphis, whose violent crime rate is one of the highest in the nation, is Democrat. It one of 3 blue spots in TN. Not surprised. Its lefty representative (Steve Cohen) in the US House of Representatives, tried to join the Congressional Black Caucus even though he's white, so he could better represent his constituents, but that racist entity on Capitol Hill said no non-blacks will be allowed in so he backed down and no one in DC made a stink about it like they should have.
That's Memphis in the lower left hand corner of the state.
The bottom line is by taking down statues, and monuments, and banning symbols, Progressives are removing KNOWLEDGE. Whether it is a reflection of good, or not so good, it is still knowledge, and knowledge is important to remembering the past, and not repeating past failure, but also learning from past successes.
The assertion that removing statues is removing knowledge is nonsensical.
The crime rate is pretty much true across all Democrat run cities St louis,Detroit, Baltimore Cleveland ,Birmingham, Buffalo,Camden Newark etc. These cities have been run for Democrats for over 30,40,50 years in many cases These issues are a good distraction though from the Democrats complete inability to do much about these problems
I am as interested in the Souths future as the past, we are the largest economy in the nation, the most fortune 500 companies,we are the fastest growing region, home to the aerospace and foreign automobile industry, the busiest airport in the world, not to mention more and more tech companies headquartered or moving here, probably amazon will be relocating south this year, bezos has texas roots and is a huge texas landowner, the best food,music,beaches in the country
Yet so much of the media and financial power is in regions that have been in decline for a long time like the northeast. I turn on the tv and all I see is Manhattan and Hollywood, thats not my culture. we need a southern city that would replace manhattan, like a singapore style futuristic city.
Maybe a new flag other than the northern virginia battle flag, the catalans,basques, etc all have their festival and flags to celebrate their regions.Southern migrants in Brazil celebrate their heritage more than we are allowed here
There is honor resisting a centralized, oppressive collective from destroying your economy, and culture. Slavery was wrong, we know that now, but at the time it was legal, and the prevailing societal attitude in BOTH the North, and the South was that African Blacks were sub-human, and could be held as property. Yes, horrible, and sickening to our current society that has evolved.
The Civil War was about economic survival of which Slavery was only a SMALL PART, but you Virtue Signalers want to make it ALL about Slavery. You're wrong, but are too arrogant to admit it.
Ah... wrong.
"Two major themes emerge in these documents: slavery and states' rights. All four states strongly defend slavery while making varying claims related to states' rights. Other grievances, such as economic exploitation and the role of the military, receive limited attention in some of the documents. This article will present, in detail, everything that was said in the Declarations of Causes pertaining to these topics."
There's a worth ethic, and "salt of the earth" ethos that many in the Midwest identify with.
I've just never heard anyone carry on about the their noble "Northern Heritage."
And the thing is, you can find hard working, "salt of the earth" people anywhere. You find it in the South. You find it in the West.
Midwest heritage, well, my father is from Wisconsin. He has Midwestern heritage in him. His parents were Black American migrants from the South. Growing up, I never heard him talk about "southern heritage". I heard talk far more about his home town. I never heard him say "northern heritage".
My mother is a Black woman from the south. She has never said anything along the lines of "southern heritage" as long as I've been alive.
There is honor resisting a centralized, oppressive collective from destroying your economy, and culture. Slavery was wrong, we know that now, but at the time it was legal, and the prevailing societal attitude in BOTH the North, and the South was that African Blacks were sub-human, and could be held as property. Yes, horrible, and sickening to our current society that has evolved.
The Civil War was about economic survival of which Slavery was only a SMALL PART, but you Virtue Signalers want to make it ALL about Slavery. You're wrong, but are too arrogant to admit it.
Sure sounds to me as if they thought slavery was pretty damned important to their economies.
Georgia -
“Because by their declared principles and policy they have outlawed $3,000,000,000 of our property in the common territories of the Union; put it under the ban of the Republic in the States where it exists and out of the protection of Federal law everywhere; because they give sanctuary to thieves and incendiaries who assail it to the whole extent of their power, in spite of their most solemn obligations and covenants; because their avowed purpose is to subvert our society and subject us not only to the loss of our property but the destruction of ourselves, our wives, and our children, and the desolation of our homes, our altars, and our firesides. To avoid these evils we resume the powers which our fathers delegated to the Government of the United States, and henceforth will seek new safeguards for our liberty, equality, security, and tranquillity.”
Mississippi -
“Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.”
South Carolina -
“Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.”
Texas -
“That in this free government *all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights* [emphasis in the original]; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states.”
Virginia -
“The people of Virginia, in their ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, adopted by them in Convention on the twenty-fifth day of June, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty-eight, having declared that the powers granted under the said Constitution were derived from the people of the United States, and might be resumed whensoever the same should be perverted to their injury and oppression; and the Federal Government, having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern Slaveholding States.”
The assertion that removing statues is removing knowledge is nonsensical.
Yes it is. You are removing knowledge of the past that people probably wouldn't see otherwise. You just don't have an argument to refute that fact. It is the exact same thing as BOOK BURNING.
Sure sounds to me as if they thought slavery was pretty damned important to their economies.
Georgia -
“Because by their declared principles and policy they have outlawed $3,000,000,000 of our property in the common territories of the Union; put it under the ban of the Republic in the States where it exists and out of the protection of Federal law everywhere; because they give sanctuary to thieves and incendiaries who assail it to the whole extent of their power, in spite of their most solemn obligations and covenants; because their avowed purpose is to subvert our society and subject us not only to the loss of our property but the destruction of ourselves, our wives, and our children, and the desolation of our homes, our altars, and our firesides. To avoid these evils we resume the powers which our fathers delegated to the Government of the United States, and henceforth will seek new safeguards for our liberty, equality, security, and tranquillity.”
Mississippi -
“Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.”
South Carolina -
“Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.”
Texas -
“That in this free government *all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights* [emphasis in the original]; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states.”
Virginia -
“The people of Virginia, in their ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, adopted by them in Convention on the twenty-fifth day of June, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty-eight, having declared that the powers granted under the said Constitution were derived from the people of the United States, and might be resumed whensoever the same should be perverted to their injury and oppression; and the Federal Government, having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern Slaveholding States.”
Even with this evidence, this clear evidence, there are people who refuse to listen. There are individuals whom you could present this evidence to over and over, and they would either deny, ignore it, or deflect from it. And then you have some who won't deny, but they'll make excuses for it.
I also think about this. I get sick of having to pull up the documents over and over to prove someone wrong. There are times when I wonder if this is like taking pearls and throwing them to pigs to be trampled upon. Or it's like playing chess with someone who is losing the game. Rather than concede defeat, said person messes up the chess board.
We have the evidence. You have written it out. The question is this: Will these Confederate sympathizers admit that the Confederates were wrong, or will they keep trying to save face?
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