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Old 12-22-2017, 07:05 AM
 
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Democrats don't know what any of the clauses say or mean. They've never read them.
Or history. Considering George Washington would have "violated the emoluments clause", too, by their interpretation.

The media is doing Democrats no favors with the constant gaslighting and setting the Democrat agenda.
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Old 12-22-2017, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Oh, well. Just another day of winning.



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/judge-d...uments-clause/

Oh, heck another fake news report about this.

Judge throws out ethics case against President Trump
Plenty more where that one came from still pending. Don't get out the party hats and whistles just yet.
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Old 12-22-2017, 07:11 AM
 
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Oh, well. Just another day of winning.



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/judge-d...uments-clause/

Oh, heck another fake news report about this.

Judge throws out ethics case against President Trump
No other conclusion was possible.
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Old 12-22-2017, 07:58 AM
 
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Has anyone read the opinion? Curious if in the dicta, the judge opined on who exactly would have standing to sue for violation of Emoluments clause.
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Old 12-22-2017, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Boston
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This entire holiday season has been all about President Trump WINNING!
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:02 AM
 
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Has anyone read the opinion? Curious if in the dicta, the judge opined on who exactly would have standing to sue for violation of Emoluments clause.
Nobody because there is no violation.
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:04 AM
 
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Nobody because there is no violation.
That's not how standing works, it's unrelated to the merits of the case. Before the merits can be addressed, you need to have standing to sue.

I'm just curious as to who actually would have standing in this type of federal action. Not my area of expertise.
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:45 AM
 
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That's not how standing works, it's unrelated to the merits of the case. Before the merits can be addressed, you need to have standing to sue.

I'm just curious as to who actually would have standing in this type of federal action. Not my area of expertise.
If there is no law violated, there would be nobody that meets this since nobody would have been harmed from an illegal action. Did you even read the emoluments clause? There is absolutely 100% no case to be had so it is impossible for anyone to show any standing.
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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Has anyone read the opinion? Curious if in the dicta, the judge opined on who exactly would have standing to sue for violation of Emoluments clause.

If there was a violation, then it would have went through, yes?


Why would it have to be a certain person?
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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That's not how standing works, it's unrelated to the merits of the case. Before the merits can be addressed, you need to have standing to sue.

I'm just curious as to who actually would have standing in this type of federal action. Not my area of expertise.
Probably Congress, on behalf of the American people, or so the article's characterization of the judge's position would lead one to believe.

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