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Old 12-22-2017, 08:57 PM
 
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Are you American?

Then yes, this IS also about the US government since so many Americans on this forum see fit to cast judgement on how other politicians run their countries.

How can someone criticize Trudeau, when our own American government gave a free pass to ISIS fighters to fight Assad's regime in Syria.
Good point. Let he who is without returning ISIS fighters cast the first stone:

Thousands of ISIS Fighters Returning to Western Countries, Including United States

Almost all American ISIS fighters unaccounted for, sparking fears they could slip through cracks and return | Fox News

Let's hear what some of you have to say about your own country that has not even admitted to taking some of them back, eh? They being jailed? They being prosecuted for some imagined crime?
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:17 PM
 
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...as compared with those returning from ISIS zones with no record or proof of having actually committed any crime.
Indeed.

How absurd to think that people who hang out with ISIS would ever be a threat to anyone.
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:27 PM
 
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Muslims should be kicked out of Western countries.
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Not all Muslims. They have been here since the revolution and helped free us from Great Britain. But any hint of radicalization they should be inprisoned as enemies of the state. No political correctness on that subject.
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Yay thought crimes!
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I guess mass deportations then?
As I said, Muslims should be kicked out of Western countries.
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:08 PM
 
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It's got something to do with that Charter of Rights and Freedoms thing where not having committed a crime in Canada, or been charged with one elsewhere, they are free to go about their business.

I guess things are different in the U.S. ??

One additional thing to consider is that even before the commission of 9/11 and the creation of Homeland Security, these types of people deemed as "persons of interest" would have had their particulars shared with American authorities. Canada got into some serious trouble over that with Arar.

Today, in all likelyhood, their bowel movements are counted in some American database.
Any Westerner who joined up with ISIS and then tried to come back would be dead in a week if Mossad had any interest in making that happen. They probably wouldn't even get back to their home countries. They'd disappear in transit and never be heard from again.

It wouldn't surprise me if ISIS is a psy-op (black operation) by Israel and its puppet the United States to justify the illegal American invasion of Syria so that it can go after its real target, the Syrian president, Bashar Al Assad.

Bashar Al Assad is one of the last holdouts in a string of secular leaders -- Khadafy (Libya), Mubarak (Egypt), Hussein (Iraq) --who protected Christians and kept a lid on Islamic fundamentalism in the Middle East.

America -- Israel's cat's paw -- didn't lift a finger for Mubarak (but gave weapons and money to Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood), went after Saddam Hussein, went after Khadafy, and is now going after Assad.

America and Israel want the Syrian president gone -- the Syrian president who, like the other secularists we've gone after, protects Jews and Christians.

And America has not given asylum to Christians who are being slaughtered in the Middle East.
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:19 PM
 
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...you seem to think people believing in Islam can't be Americans.
They can't.

Islam is anti-personal freedom, anti-democracy, anti-equality, and anti-religious pluralism.

That makes it un-American and un-Western.

And I haven't even mentioned gays being thrown off buildings and women not having equal rights.

Oh, well, now I have.

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Old 12-22-2017, 10:28 PM
 
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I was only for kicking them out, not having them executed.

But then you brought up Keith Ellison.

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Old 12-22-2017, 10:34 PM
 
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Are you American?

Then yes, this IS also about the US government since so many Americans on this forum see fit to cast judgement on how other politicians run their countries.

How can someone criticize Trudeau, when our own American government gave a free pass to ISIS fighters to fight Assad's regime in Syria.
We can be critical of both governments.

Why would you think an American criticizing the Canadian government necessarily supports the American government?

Since Canadians no longer have freedom of speech, we're just trying to help them out here.
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:37 PM
 
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Canada deported a German resident alien who had lived there -- legally -- for 30 years for questioning the Holocaust, but when it comes to ISIS members who want to behead Canadians, it's "Come on in!"

Nutty Western governments....
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:37 PM
 
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As I said, Muslims should be kicked out of Western countries.
Very cool
but how
Like Mr. Trudeau in power
They are trying to destroy their beautiful societies
And allow terrorism to spread in Canada
First you must get rid of Trudeau
It also supports Trudo
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:44 PM
 
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Very cool
but how
Like Mr. Trudeau in power
They are trying to destroy their beautiful societies
And allow terrorism to spread in Canada
First you must get rid of Trudeau
It also supports Trudo
You're right.

Canadians were stupid to elect Trudeau, just like Americans were stupid to elect Obama, Germans were stupid to elect Merkel, the French were stupid to elect Macron, Brits were stupid to...etc.

To make a long story short, it's time for Westerners to wise up.
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