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Old 12-29-2017, 10:45 AM
 
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What a stupid way to run a country.
The video is 9 min, had you watched this video before?
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Old 12-29-2017, 10:55 AM
 
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Let's be honest......every liberal city and Democrat governors, especially in la-la land California, are fighting Trump on this. They are sheltering and protecting illegals. No so much with Obama.

they declared war on Trump and our federal immigration law enforcement before Trump took the oath of office.


So let's put things into perspective in Trump's first year in office.
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:02 AM
 
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I already posted a video, here is another one explaining why there are less deportations, holding them is more profitable.
There is a ton of money to be made off illegals and as long as that is the case, nothing is going to be done about it.
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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He absolutely did say that and you only have to understand the language to know that's what he said.

See below for a demonstration.

It's just the liberal and ethnocentric interpretation of what he meant. Only an idiot would interpret it to mean Mexicans that are here legally who passed background checks, etc. Since when have they caused any problems?
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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See that's where your confused and I know it's hard for some of you but I'm not a Liberal. Insane is voting for a angry man child whose a sexist pig for president.






The wall will NEVER happen sorry and yes people will find a way to get over it, around it or under it. Maybe even though it. You underestimate the human spirt.

Ok, you aren't going to listen to reason nor the factual links that I posted on how the good walls already erected have deterred illegal entry immensely. Calling our president by those filthy names says a lot about you also. Bye, welcome to my ignore list.
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Well then let's remove any walls around any of our homes and businesses since they don't deter criminals 100%. Liberal logic.

Liberal logic? What happens if you're an independent and you believe a wall is a waste of money What if you want all of the illegals from all of the countries to stop coming here? Is that liberal logic or just common sense

(Ps I have a fence to keep my dogs from pooping on the neighbors lawns, not to keep criminals out. They will find a way in if they want too bad enough. Damn pretty expensive fence too. )
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Old 12-29-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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Liberal logic? What happens if you're an independent and you believe a wall is a waste of money What if you want all of the illegals from all of the countries to stop coming here? Is that liberal logic or just common sense

(Ps I have a fence to keep my dogs from pooping on the neighbors lawns, not to keep criminals out. They will find a way in if they want too bad enough. Damn pretty expensive fence too. )

I'm sure there are some independents and Republicans who object to the wall also but it is mostly bleeding heart liberals and especially ethnocentrics that do. If any of them had any sense without an agenda they'd research the facts about how the good walls do work but they're not interested in the facts.


Fences and walls do deter unwanted entry aside from your doggy story. There will always be people determined enough to try but the majority won't. What part of that aren't you getting?
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Old 12-29-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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The problem is this current useless logic or like david graeber says: it is like paying somebody to continually take out buckets of water from a leaky roof instead of fixing the damaged roof which is what needs to be done. The same problem exist in the health system [or everywhere for that matter], there's no interest in making people healthy but managing the disease is more profitable.

In a world where goods can flow freely, where violence and wars continue to increase and workers rights dismantled for the sake of corporations, it is no surprise people would escape the worst areas to go some place better; IT'S HUMAN NATURE. The only solutions is to improve social issues everywhere, but that is not good for shareholders profits, they'll rather start wwIII than let people have a decent living, and so the ravaging economic system over human rights continue.

These simple words will get you killed in poor countries, so talking about respecting border laws is plain foolish.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjM81tYBew4
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Old 12-29-2017, 03:36 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best,” he said in the same speech. “They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

Donald Trump: All the Times He's Insulted Mexico | Time
Believe what you want. He was speaking of those who cross the border illegally, and he was absolutely right. Ask anyone who lives near the border. They know he was right. If they aren't criminals, why are they coming in illegally?

You know he's right. You just can't admit it.
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Old 12-29-2017, 03:39 PM
 
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Believe what you want. He was speaking of those who cross the border illegally, and he was absolutely right. Ask anyone who lives near the border. They know he was right. If they aren't criminals, why are they coming in illegally?

You know he's right. You just can't admit it.
I've always understood most illegals to cross legally but to stay illegally...small point but it means most aren't criminals when they come in -- they become criminals (illegal) when they don't leave when they are suppose to.
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