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I thought it was part of some major plan NYC had to increase rail capacity - perhaps not then.
Not the Penn Station monstrosity of today. NYC has a plan, but this station is not the cure. Plan involves another tunnel, reroute LIRR to Grand Central, reroute Metro North to Penn, and add subway lines into northern NJ, but improvements for that would not be felt until at least 2030.
It is also why they are adding 4 Bronx New Haven line stations, as going to Penn means rerouting it from the Bronx on.
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Not the Penn Station monstrosity of today. NYC has a plan, but this station is not the cure. Plan involves another tunnel, reroute LIRR to Grand Central, reroute Metro North to Penn, and add subway lines into northern NJ, but improvements for that would not be felt until at least 2030.
It is also why they are adding 4 Bronx New Haven line stations, as going to Penn means rerouting it from the Bronx on.
Sounds a decent enough plan, although sad to see the Gateway plan delayed until the US gets another President.
The Subway also needs refurbishing and new signals, however the City is investing in new rolling stock for the subway which looks impressive, as well as paperless travel technology similar to London's Oyster Card, and this will see some improvements within the shorter term.
Sounds a decent enough plan, although sad to see the Gateway plan delayed until the US gets another President.
The Subway also needs refurbishing and new signals, however the City is investing in new rolling stock for the subway which looks impressive, as well as paperless travel technology similar to London's Oyster Card, and this will see some improvements within the shorter term.
I am not sad Gateway is delayed, as it is IMO a waste of money, better spent on the more meaningful plan I detailed for you.
Subway service under DeBlasio has become worse than Under Bloomberg.
I'll make this simple. Trump is taking a page out of the Chris Christie playbook. Get even with your enemies. I suspect Trump will meet the same fate as Christie in a few years with the same poll numbers before being run out of office.
Trump is POTUS, not president of NY and NJ. Our federal tax dollars are better spent elsewhere. I keep hearing how great NYC is... prove it and pay for your own stuff.
I'll make this simple. Trump is taking a page out of the Chris Christie playbook. Get even with your enemies. I suspect Trump will meet the same fate as Christie in a few years with the same poll numbers before being run out of office.
I'll make this even simpler for you, Trump wrote the playbook that Christie has read. I am real sure he will lose votes in NY/NJ, wooopeedo!
Not the Penn Station monstrosity of today. NYC has a plan, but this station is not the cure. Plan involves another tunnel, reroute LIRR to Grand Central, reroute Metro North to Penn, and add subway lines into northern NJ, but improvements for that would not be felt until at least 2030.
It is also why they are adding 4 Bronx New Haven line stations, as going to Penn means rerouting it from the Bronx on.
LIRR is not being wholly rerouted into GCT, but rather new tunnels and station would allow access. The East Side Access LIRR project is years behind scheduled and vastly over budget. It is also a classic example of why large infrastructure projects in New York (and by extension New Jersey and Conn) cost so much.
Back when the two rival railroads that hated each other (PRR and New York Central) owners of Penn Station and GCT respectively were still in control of those properties there was *NO* way either would allow passenger connections to the other. However once the two married under the Penn-Central merger the creation of "Empire Connection" allowed by then Amtrak trains to head into Penn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Side_Line_(NYCRR)
The same Empire Connection in theory could be used to route Metro-North trains into Penn Station, but it remains to be seen if that will happen. Working theory is once LIRR East Side Access is completed room will open up due to a number of trains terminating at GCT instead. This ties in with the grand designs of the "new" Penn Station at Farley post office.
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