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Old 12-30-2017, 08:02 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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The OP is from a state where they shot a US Senator in the head - and that was after the suspect already shot 19 people and killed 6, where nine people were mass murdered at a Buddhist Temple, and also has had a ton of murder suicides in the 00s and beyond. The OP's state also has high rates of poverty (consistently always ranks top 10 in household rates of poverty):




So based on AZ's problem with guns and high rates of poverty, I suppose I can logically deduct that I should stay away from a 3rd world hell hole like AZ because it has so much poverty and also need to avoid it if I want to not be shot up by gun wielding maniacs.
Not to mention the obesity rate, homelessness and drug use in his home state. Those are three things the OP consistently brings up about California and New York but fails to mention how bad it is where he currently lives.
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Old 12-30-2017, 08:03 PM
 
Location: FL
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Massive fire that killed 12 started by child playing with stove | abc7.com

Maybe people unless it is a penthouse or large luxury units, should raise their children in a large single family home and not an overcrowded apartment.

New York City seems to have many issues that arise from it's third-world sized families living in small apartments in walk-up tenement apartments.

Bronx fire started by child playing with stove, official says - CNN

https://www.google.com/maps/place/23...!4d-73.8831984

It seems as though these massive families living in crowded apartments with buildings with hundreds of people with electrical appliances and stoves everywhere is a recipe for issues.

I guess unlike DeBlasio's NY, people in Republican Wichita can raise their children in huge homes that aren't crammed with things that could dangerous for less than 1,000 a month.

Why have kids if they can't watch them 24 hours, 7 days a week?

Why have a big family if they are living in a century-year old walk up overcrowded apartment building festered with disease?

I wonder how many siblings the parents who were living in a Bronx tenement were preoccupied with?

Seems like the NYC model of crowded tenement apartments crowded with families that can't watch their children that are breeding grounds of disease isn't really working very well.
Nice rant. I bet you have never had kids.
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Old 12-30-2017, 08:04 PM
 
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Not to mention the obesity rate, homelessness and drug use in his home state. Those are three things the OP consistently brings up about California and New York but fails to mention how bad it is where he currently lives.
Oh, this poster has made posts about AZ before and managed to twist them into being the fault of liberals, too.
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Old 12-30-2017, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Since I'm playing with Google street view, I thought I'd find the neighborhood where this occurred. According to the article it's the Belmont neighborhood in the Bronx.

That is here.

Here are some typical street scenes of Belmont:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8530...f4jg!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8525...50LA!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8561...aJOA!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8561...eOgA!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8540...Cjog!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8592...v5gA!2e0?hl=en

Like the other "bad" areas I showed, to be sure it's not a fancy area, but it's not some dilapidated slum either.
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Old 12-30-2017, 09:04 PM
 
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Since I'm playing with Google street view, I thought I'd find the neighborhood where this occurred. According to the article it's the Belmont neighborhood in the Bronx.

That is here.

Here are some typical street scenes of Belmont:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8530...f4jg!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8525...50LA!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8561...aJOA!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8561...eOgA!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8540...Cjog!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8592...v5gA!2e0?hl=en

Like the other "bad" areas I showed, to be sure it's not a fancy area, but it's not some dilapidated slum either.
correct. By Fordham University, once home of Dion and The Belmonts.
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Old 12-30-2017, 09:07 PM
 
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Since I'm playing with Google street view, I thought I'd find the neighborhood where this occurred. According to the article it's the Belmont neighborhood in the Bronx.

That is here.

Here are some typical street scenes of Belmont:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8530...f4jg!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8525...50LA!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8561...aJOA!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8561...eOgA!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8540...Cjog!2e0?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8592...v5gA!2e0?hl=en

Like the other "bad" areas I showed, to be sure it's not a fancy area, but it's not some dilapidated slum either.

The OP lives in a fantasy land. NYC is not anywhere close to being a slummy 3rd world country. For starters, I doubt the OP has even ever been to NYC nor has he ever been to a 3rd world country. There are other cities in the US in far worse shape than NYC. You could probably take the worst areas of NYC and compare them to places like Gary, IN, parts of WV, MS, LA, or KY and it'd look like the Champ Elysees.
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Old 12-30-2017, 09:09 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I smell trolling.
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Old 12-30-2017, 09:17 PM
 
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There are other cities in the US in far worse shape than NYC. You could probably take the worst areas of NYC and compare them to places like Gary, IN, parts of WV, MS, LA, or KY and it'd look like the Champ Elysees.
That's not true. The worst neighborhoods in NYC are terrible, but that is also true in every large city across the nation.

That being said, the OP is falsely equating politics with tragedy.

That is what this was. Tragedy.
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Old 12-30-2017, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Mods, please lock this thread.
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Old 12-30-2017, 09:37 PM
 
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Most of the north east is full of what you describe. Not just apartments but houses.

My first house was a fire hazard and a half. Was built in the 50s and had rope insulation wire and a glass fuse panel.

I had to gut all of that crap out and run new wire (I went beyond code and put the wire in metal conduit to prevent mice from chewing wires been to too many house fires where it started inside a wall by a mouse) and a breaker panel. Just to get home owners insurance on it.

Back in those days when that house was built, the wire was tacked to studs with big staples too. Should a stud move pinch 2 wires through the chintzy "insulation" wham fire.

Some of the older Victorian houses still standing built in the 1800s-1920s are legit fires waiting to happen unless updated. Never mind if they have asbestos siding...
mc could've worked better, EMT is good too but can be a pain. I know chicago everything needs to be picked in
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