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Old 01-02-2018, 04:45 AM
 
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But we still want to waste billions and billions of dollars a year with a military presence in Afghanistan/Iraq fighting pointless and never ending wars.
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:46 AM
 
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But we still want to waste billions and billions of dollars a year with a military presence in Afghanistan/Iraq fighting pointless and never ending wars.
Yes, that's bad too.

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Old 01-02-2018, 06:17 AM
 
Location: England
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When I was a kid in the 60s, California was like a dream land that I would have loved to live in. The Beach Boys sang about surfin', and movies were made there in Hollywood. Songs were written about places in the State, like 'Do you know the way to San Jose'. Beautiful cities like San Francisco could be found there.

Gorgeous coastline leading to great named cities like San Diego and Los Angeles. Nice weather, and fruit groves growing oranges. I would read about it, and wish I could get to see it.

What happened?
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Ah, the same old, tired "it's all the fault of the evil illegal immigrants" excuse. Except it isn't. A major cause of California's woes is the unregulated housing market. People cannot afford to pay for a roof over their head because builders charge whatever they want, leaving the cost of even apartment rent out of reach for many employees. Rent and mortgages are so expensive that California residents, most of them legal, are living in cardboard boxes, in their cars, or in apartments hours from their jobs.
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Old 01-02-2018, 07:03 AM
 
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Ah, the same old, tired "it's all the fault of the evil illegal immigrants" excuse. Except it isn't. A major cause of California's woes is the unregulated housing market. People cannot afford to pay for a roof over their head because builders charge whatever they want, leaving the cost of even apartment rent out of reach for many employees. Rent and mortgages are so expensive that California residents, most of them legal, are living in cardboard boxes, in their cars, or in apartments hours from their jobs.


I don't think you have to argue hard that the COL and housing markets in CA are out of control. Most people would agree. So what's the solution?

The Bay Area is where a ton of job growth is, but the problem is that cities like SF are severely limited by geography and laws that prevent construction of affordable housing due to NIMBYs that block every single attempt to do so (NIMBYs are a problem across the country everywhere). People in SF are literally renting out their garages for over $2500/mo.


Also, CA has massive amounts of foreign money pouring into it from places like China, where corrupt government officials abroad try to hide their money by buying up multi-million dollar properties with straight up cash and don't even live in them for 80% of the year. They also pay well over sticker price to buy up homes. How can middle class American families compete with millions of dollars of corrupt foreign money coming from abroad? The same problem happens in countries like Australia, in Vancouver, and in other cities like NY. Americans are being priced out of affording homes by foreign investment that is using housing as a shell to hide their wealth.
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Old 01-02-2018, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Most of them are illegals, so I really don't care.

Once they are school age they get free breakfasts and lunches -- even during the summer when school is out -- and I'm paying for that, as well as their schooling and health care.
One of the new state laws is that schools can't deny a child lunch if they are unable to pay, so it sounds like even if the family didn't sign up at the beginning of the school year for the free meal program, enough kids are still falling through the cracks. Another new state law is that schools must provide free feminine hygiene products to girls in 6th through 12th grade. It's sad that it's gotten to this point.
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Old 01-02-2018, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Foreign buyers in California purchased $35 billion worth of properties, up from $27 billion a year earlier.
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Old 01-02-2018, 07:16 AM
 
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But we still want to waste billions and billions of dollars a year with a military presence in Afghanistan/Iraq fighting pointless and never ending wars.
Are we drafting 5 year olds living in poverty ?
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Old 01-02-2018, 07:20 AM
 
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But we still want to waste billions and billions of dollars a year with a military presence in Afghanistan/Iraq fighting pointless and never ending wars.
And that has nothing at all to do with California taking care of its hungry children.
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Old 01-02-2018, 07:22 AM
 
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One of the new state laws is that schools can't deny a child lunch if they are unable to pay, so it sounds like even if the family didn't sign up at the beginning of the school year for the free meal program, enough kids are still falling through the cracks. Another new state law is that schools must provide free feminine hygiene products to girls in 6th through 12th grade. It's sad that it's gotten to this point.

Children under 5 aren't in school. How are they getting fed?
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