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Old 01-02-2018, 11:29 AM
 
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One of the problems with having decent weather and halfway decent support for the less fortunate is that a lot of the less fortunate show up.

Hell, you don't even have to have decent weather. Minnesota has all sorts of folks getting support services who moved to Minnestoa from Wisconsin, the Dakotas, ... to get some help.

Minnesota Medicaid covers dental services. There are even dental clinics for those with Medicaid coverage. People came as far away as Florida to get on Minnesota Medicaid to get dental work done.
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Wait, low wages? But I think everyone in CA was working for Google or Facebook making over $100,000 per year.

Everyone in CA bragging about it being the "6th largest economy in the world'..

It's a shame that 25% of CA children 5 and under live in poverty.

California...the liberal 'miracle economy'...
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Nearly a quarter of California children 5 years old and younger live in poverty, according to a new report that examines the impact of the cost of living and family income on the state’s youngest residents.
The report, titled “Reducing Child Poverty in California,” found that 31 percent of “poor” families spend more than half of their income on housing, making it difficult to meet basic needs, such as food and health care. Five percent of families in the state live in “deep poverty,” meaning they have less than half the resources they need, states the report, published by Public Policy Institute of California.



https://www.dailynews.com/2017/12/31...in-california/
and I thought the only kids living in poverty lived in the deep south where people voted for Trump?
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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Ah, the same old, tired "it's all the fault of the evil illegal immigrants" excuse. Except it isn't. A major cause of California's woes is the unregulated housing market. People cannot afford to pay for a roof over their head because builders charge whatever they want, leaving the cost of even apartment rent out of reach for many employees. Rent and mortgages are so expensive that California residents, most of them legal, are living in cardboard boxes, in their cars, or in apartments hours from their jobs.
How can you not see the connection between a shortage of supply of lower income housing and the persistent unregulated massive influx of impoverished folks from Central America (and, to a lesser degree, Southeast Asia) who add dramatically to the demand for such housing, above and beyond that which would come with regular population growth?
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:36 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Le Brea tar pits must be spreading.


So children are defined as less than 18 years old? Institute for research on poverty only uses three age groups, haven't seen who breaks it down to 5 year olds. less than 18 yo


Census bureau defines children as less than 18....


what is the source of the 5 and under data ?


"Poverty Thresholds
Poverty Thresholds by Size of Family and Number of Related Children Under 18 Years Source: Current Population Survey (CPS)"



making less than 31k?


In the UK poverty is determined to be anyone making less than 61k.


changing the definition of children or poverty can raise or lower the statistics to fit anyone's political narrative. Data source another issue.


Canada does a little better than the US but struggles to define poverty and collect accurate data.


Hispanics suffer the most poverty, earning less than 31k, so it stands to reason CA would have a high poverty rate. Where does that 5 yo threshold come from?
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Old 01-02-2018, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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and I thought the only kids living in poverty lived in the deep south where people voted for Trump?
That's what I keep hearing from libs too . Always talking about the poverty in the south . They need to look in their own backyard .
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Old 01-02-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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Wait, low wages? But I think everyone in CA was working for Google or Facebook making over $100,000 per year.

Everyone in CA bragging about it being the "6th largest economy in the world'..

It's a shame that 25% of CA children 5 and under live in poverty.
Third-World immigration brings Third-World wealth.
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:41 PM
 
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When I was a kid in the 60s, California was like a dream land that I would have loved to live in. The Beach Boys sang about surfin', and movies were made there in Hollywood. Songs were written about places in the State, like 'Do you know the way to San Jose'. Beautiful cities like San Francisco could be found there.

Gorgeous coastline leading to great named cities like San Diego and Los Angeles. Nice weather, and fruit groves growing oranges. I would read about it, and wish I could get to see it.

What happened?

The 1965 Immigration and Naturalization Act which allowed in millions of immigrants many of whom were from third world countries. We can thank the drunken Ted Kennedy for that who said it wouldn't alter the demographics of our country and would make us prosper. Then came massive illegal immigration from same. I know, I grew up in So. Calif. and watched it happen. Your description of Calif. prior to that is quite accurate.
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:21 AM
 
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Republicans were behind the closure of mental institutions which is where many of those homeless came from.
Canadian cities became filled with homeless at the same time American cities did.

I don't think there are any Republicans in Canada.

It all had to do with activists demanding that mental hospitals be closed because they were supposedly inhumane.
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Old 01-03-2018, 02:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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But we still want to waste billions and billions of dollars a year with a military presence in Afghanistan/Iraq fighting pointless and never ending wars.
and creating more poverty stricken children overseas after we "pull out" !....They hate us for our "freedoms" .

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Old 01-03-2018, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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How can you not see the connection between a shortage of supply of lower income housing and the persistent unregulated massive influx of impoverished folks from Central America (and, to a lesser degree, Southeast Asia) who add dramatically to the demand for such housing, above and beyond that which would come with regular population growth?
Exactly. It's not about blaming people but recognizing economic reality. You can't take millions of people from the bottom rungs of the third world, plop them into one of the most expensive areas of the first world, and expect them to be thriving, prosperous members of society overnight. It's like taking a 17 year-old who hasn't attended school since 8th grade and sending them into senior year.
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