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Old 01-02-2018, 08:54 AM
 
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People in government make mistakes often enough with slips on classified info. It's called a spill and it takes thousands of dollars to clean it up. Most people do it out of not thinking or not realizing they've done it. It happens more frequently in those who have access to classified info but don't routinely actually see. These employees are not brought up on criminal charges or fired or anything. They may be fined. It's always about intent.

Yes, people should be a LOT smarter and I would hope State employees even more so. But if you think this is an isolated incident, you would be incorrect. This one makes headlines because of who she is. Admittedly, I did not read the entire link but in my scan, I didn't see where she released Secret or Top Secret info. It was considered "sensitive" which all government correspondence is. I'd be interested to know if they had to do a clean up, which indicates the level of material that she forwarded.
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:55 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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People in government don't want to hold anyone in government accountable. They are afraid they will at some point be held accountable themselves and that can't be allowed.
With the NSA and them snooping on interesting people at will untethered(Clapper, Comey & Brennen), they are gathering dirt to blackmail elected officials and very wealthy people.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:05 AM
 
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With the NSA and them snooping on interesting people at will untethered(Clapper, Comey & Brennen), they are gathering dirt to blackmail elected officials and very wealthy people.
Yes, but elected officials and very wealthy people are one in the same. Thought that should be emphasized.

Take the curmudgeon Burnie who is one of the poorer members of congress. Three houses and wearing a $1000.00 suit is a socialist's finest example of what can be achieved on the tax payer dime.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:10 AM
 
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The government needs to start teaching proper protocol better and enforcing proper protocol.
I agree with this.

However I get the impression that this is enforced on an individual, highly-partisan basis. It seems like certain people can share/leak classified info without any repercussions, while other (typically more powerful people) can just get away with it, no problems.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:18 AM
 
Location: The 719
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Wow.

So Huma Abedin sent classified information like passwords into government systems and other sensitive information to her personal Yahoo email account.

This email account was then hacked by an employee of the Russian investment bank Renaissance Capital, which has Kremlin connections...which coincidentally paid Bill Clinton $500,000 for a 17 minute speech.

Huma would routinely forward government info to her Yahoo email, because she found it easier to print from it.

Huma Abedin Used Yahoo, That Was Hacked | The Daily Caller

The government needs to start teaching proper protocol better and enforcing proper protocol.
We have enough evidence sitting there to show that Trump is the only one who didn't collude with Russia and enough F'ery to give Mueller a heart attack.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I agree with this.

However I get the impression that this is enforced on an individual, highly-partisan basis. It seems like certain people can share/leak classified info without any repercussions, while other (typically more powerful people) can just get away with it, no problems.


I think we found common ground as Americans, by putting the party loyalty aside, on a serious issue as this.

I agree, that had a Republican darling done what we know the DNC and Hillary has done, we would fry them. Corrupt people able to buy their freedom and full liberties above laws, should have their chain yanked hard, no matter who they may be, or what good they may have done in the past.

These people should be held to a much higher standard. Not a lower one than the People they govern.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:21 AM
 
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I think we found common ground as Americans, by putting the party loyalty aside, on a serious issue as this.

I agree, that had a Republican darling done what we know the DNC and Hillary has done, we would fry them. Corrupt people able to buy their freedom and full liberties above laws, should have their chain yanked hard, no matter who they may be, or what good they may have done in the past.

These people should be held to a much higher standard. Not a lower one than the People they govern.
You were so close, but your post quickly turned partisan and went south.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:25 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The one thing the Democrat party has going for them that keeps them relevant, is that they are diehard team supporters, regardless how bad the players my be.
This may change as maturity sets in and they don't want someone in wealth & power taking care of them, because it comes with getting told how to live.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:27 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You were so close, but your post quickly turned partisan and went south.


That would mean, you think/or feel Huma and Hillary did nothing wrong.
I'm saying they did and had it been John McCain or Mitt Romney, or GW Bush, they should do the perp walk.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:32 AM
 
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Nichole Wallace said the White House staff gets initial training on what is and what is not allowed when employed. And they get quarterly reviews.

She also said that after a White House new hire fills out all the questionnaires regarding finances, contacts, etc. they get an 8 hour conversation about the form and what they put on it with an FBI agent. IDK how all these people just forget what they learned a few weeks ago.

Huma needs her arse kicked on the way to the jail. And so does anybody else who ignored the rules.
Need to pass classified info using an unsecured method and be able to lie about it? Easy. Just have your minions paraphrase the info into a NEW document without the proper headings/notations/classifications and send it along. Now you can say "No email with "classified" was ever sent to my private email." with a straight face.
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