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Old 02-06-2018, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Couldn't it also be said that the market would be way less volatile if there weren't super high speed computer generated trades? My guess is that's what fueled yesterday's action to begin with.
Yep. Triggers create automated transactions.

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Couldn't part of the problem also be that the Fed is not buying by the bucketful to prop up the market anymore?
That would make sense if they had just recently stopped it, but it ended a long time ago, and they even hiked the rates in 2015.

 
Old 02-06-2018, 11:05 AM
 
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And that has proven accurate so far. Stocks just had their biggest crash in history. Trump's stock market performance, so far, is abysmal, and far worse than that of his predecessors.

It wasn't the "Left" making such predictions, BTW. It was basically every sane economist and Wall Street firm. Markets want stability, not chaos. Trump is chaos, and will probably eventually sink the economy, as predicted by most.

Play words all you want, the way the left was pushing it, as soon as he was elected, the crash would happen. Maybe you did not read the articles, they were saying 15% or more...
 
Old 02-06-2018, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Houston
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We’ve only lost six weeks of gains, folks.

Get a grip it ain’t the end of the world.
 
Old 02-06-2018, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Old, boring people only hate volatile markets if their money is incorrectly allocated. Being "old" means that you probably shouldn't have a ton of money in equities because your timeline for actually needing your investments as income to live off of is short.
Buffet still has his money in stocks.
 
Old 02-06-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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Hopefully people will realize the market is not the economy.
Funny statement from someone posting "Trump is the greatest on the economy, the Dow breaks 25,000" as his headline. The insistence that these were just to be taken as unrelated facts rings a little unconvincing at this point.
 
Old 02-06-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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Buffet still has his money in stocks.
OK, fine, lets exclude 87 year old billionaire investing gurus.
 
Old 02-06-2018, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Houston
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OK, fine, lets exclude 87 year old billionaire investing gurus.
Let’s exclude just about everyone as life expectancies have increased. At 65 you could still have 30 years of life left. I will always maintain at least 60% in equities.

I confess I got nervous last week and went from 90/10 to 75/25. Probably switch back in 60 days.
 
Old 02-06-2018, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Originally Posted by jimj View Post
Couldn't it also be said that the market would be way less volatile if there weren't super high speed computer generated trades? My guess is that's what fueled yesterday's action to begin with.

Couldn't part of the problem also be that the Fed is not buying by the bucketful to prop up the market anymore?
High speed trading, triggers etc all play a role, but it isn't like those or anything new.
 
Old 02-06-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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Let’s exclude just about everyone as life expectancies have increased. At 65 you could still have 30 years of life left. I will always maintain at least 60% in equities.

I confess I got nervous last week and went from 90/10 to 75/25. Probably switch back in 60 days.
Not sure if this is an investment thread or Trump thread, but once I became recently retired, I switched from pretty much 100 percent stocks to 40 percent bonds and 60 percent stocks. Diversification is key, since having "all eggs in one basket" is simply too risky if not just plain stupid (and why investments in real estate and other places makes better sense too).

Not exactly the sort of challenge, thinking or opportunities most average Americans are fortunate enough to be considering, however, given how many have little-to-no savings or investments and can't even afford an emergency $400 expense...

Back to Trump, too bad more of his supporters are "connecting these dots" the way they do. Maybe some volatility will begin to force some "inconvenient truths," but now that we have seen how Trump supporters reconcile all developments in rather selective fashion, I doubt any negative developments while Trump is in office will be attributed to other than everyone who isn't a Trump supporter.

We all surely know how the mentality works by now. "Heads I win. Tails you lose."
 
Old 02-06-2018, 11:39 AM
 
Location: USA
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We’ve only lost six weeks of gains, folks.

Get a grip it ain’t the end of the world.
Agree. We’ve gotten so used to near-zero volatility and constant gains that we’re freaking out.

That being said, it’s true that stock valuations are still very high. The only time they were higher was during the dot com bubble in 1999. Hedge your bets and have some cash on hand in case prices keep falling.
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