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What's the difference between government bureaucrats and corporate bureaucrats? I'm genuinely curious.
For starters Im not forced to pay private sector bureaucrats, i dont have to accept their decisions and I can fire them if so displeased.
And I'd like the state out of healthcare entirely so that third party payment isnt a necessity and we as consumers have the freedom to make our own choices.
Scary huh lol
Then explain to me, why the US spends more Federal Dollars than every single developed nation on Healthcare, and you STILL need private insurance? The US pays more per capita in Federal Healthcare than Western Europe with UHC systems too (so it's not 'we have 350M to the UK'S 68M).
You're paying as much if not more taxes than every UHC country on healthcare. Then you're paying for health insurance on top at what, $1k or more a month?
One of the already existent 'encouragements' for working (or having independent income) are property taxes, and local fees, etc. If you have no mortgage you're still having to pay 5%+ of the property value annually just to retain ownership. To say nothing of vehicle registration, utility costs, etc.
Well, for starters every uninsured Tom, Dick, and Harry gets free care in the ER, which is paid from Medicaid. Also the left has an addiction to cheap labor from 3rd world countries. That cost is initially absorbed by the hospitals, but it gets passed to those of us who pay premiums. Then you have the pharmaceutical racket. Obamacare tied pain management to compensation. The result is the opioid crisis, which of course increases drug company profits. Docs are pressured to prescribe narcotics. You need to wrap your mind around Obamacare to really understand why healthcare is so expensive. It was designed to make healthcare a much bigger sector of our economy, meaning we pumped a crap ton of money in to it. That was accomplished by mandating demand. Think about it, if insurance is mandatory, then the insurance companies have no incentive to lower premiums. If the government mandated that you purchase a 4 door hybrid car, what do you think would happen to the price of 4 door hybrid cars? They would skyrocket.
The type of people this is affecting are the same types of people who in America either wouldn't have insurance, or are underinsured with high deductibles.
People in the UK with the desire and the means can buy private insurance plans, just like Americans are coerced to, and don't have to be reliant on the NHS.
The fact of the matter, though, is that the US lags behind the UK and most of Europe in virtually every metric of health of its citizens from obesity to infant mortality to life expectancy.
One can get the highest standard of care in the world in the US, but our rankings suggest that many are left out of even a mediocre standard if not a minimal standard.
For starters Im not forced to pay private sector bureaucrats, i dont have to accept their decisions and I can fire them if so displeased.
And I'd like the state out of healthcare entirely so that third party payment isnt a necessity and we as consumers have the freedom to make our own choices.
Scary huh lol
Wow, good for you. So when your claim is denied you just fire them. That's great. Of course you still owe the truckload of money for the treatment but who cares about that, right? So yeah, it is great ... for them
Well, for starters every uninsured Tom, Dick, and Harry gets free care in the ER, which is paid from Medicaid.
If only there were some mechanism to force them to pay for coverage that could then be used to charge for services rendered.
Is it too much to ask an able-bodied adult to pay $120 a month?
By the way, Medicaid does not pay for ER services unless that person is actually enrolled.
I want you to have faith in this, because it is a physical constant as certain as gravity. The hard sciences empirically observe that it is impossible to get Medicaid to pay for something it doesn't have to.
Otherwise, the hospital factors the receivable to a debt collector. Tom, Dick and Harry are now too broke to afford the Oxford comma and their credit rating includes a debt in collections.
More interesting would be what it was in 1980 and what it is today. In general, Chinese have seen their real wages increase 20-fold in the last decades while it has been largely flat in America.
Hard to keep up with China when they have been taking out jobs and companies. Of course their economy is going to grow dramatically and ours is flat.
Well, for starters every uninsured Tom, Dick, and Harry gets free care in the ER, which is paid from Medicaid. Also the left has an addiction to cheap labor from 3rd world countries. That cost is initially absorbed by the hospitals, but it gets passed to those of us who pay premiums. Then you have the pharmaceutical racket. Obamacare tied pain management to compensation. The result is the opioid crisis, which of course increases drug company profits. Docs are pressured to prescribe narcotics. You need to wrap your mind around Obamacare to really understand why healthcare is so expensive. It was designed to make healthcare a much bigger sector of our economy, meaning we pumped a crap ton of money in to it. That was accomplished by mandating demand. Think about it, if insurance is mandatory, then the insurance companies have no incentive to lower premiums. If the government mandated that you purchase a 4 door hybrid car, what do you think would happen to the price of 4 door hybrid cars? They would skyrocket.
Wow I went to bed and there's 10 more pages.
It's very simple. The struggle is between 2 worldviews, capitalism vs socialism.
Capitalism is imperfect but socialism goes against the natural order.
The natural condition for all people is freedom.
Socialism requires force or it cannot work. There is always a loss of freedom associated with it's implementation.
There is no argument a socialist can make For the loss of freedom for Americans who already know freedom. They are the wrong people to try and fool with silly arguments in favor of state control over free will.
Socialists find comfort in less freedom, it includes less responsibility.
Those who sacrifice freedom for safety eventually find neither. The sad part is, they reach that state and remain oblivious to their own bondage.
It's very simple. The struggle is between 2 worldviews, capitalism vs socialism.
Capitalism is imperfect but socialism goes against the natural order.
The natural condition for all people is freedom.
Socialism requires force or it cannot work. There is always a loss of freedom associated with it's implementation.
There is no argument a socialist can make For the loss of freedom for Americans who already know freedom. They are the wrong people to try and fool with silly arguments in favor of state control over free will.
Socialists find comfort in less freedom, it includes less responsibility.
Those who sacrifice freedom for safety eventually find neither. The sad part is, they reach that state and remain oblivious to their own bondage.
Please, point me to the location of your extant corpus of primary literature that has informed the greatest minds of the political and social sciences.
There is no vaccine for it. If there was you would think every American would have been vaccinated by now. Or are we not being vaccinated because our system sucks?
Of course there is a flu vaccine, in fact there are several. Target, Walmart, Walgreen's, the grocery stores, senior centers and so on have been advertising flu shots since late summer.
All ACA compliant insurance, IOW almost all insurance plus Medicare B and Medicare Advantage, plus Medicaid, Vaccines For Children and other programs cover flu vaccine for free at the point of service.
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez
If you’d like to talk both science and math, I’d love to talk about immunization rates of illegals and how disease tends to spread faster among those who aren’t immunized.
Let me start with two questions:
1. Do you believe immunization has any value to the public?
2. Do you think immunization rates amongst illegals is higher, about the same or lower than US citizens?
1. Yes, and the science says so. It doesn't really matter what I think.
2. Depends on what country they're from. Most people from Central/South America have as high or higher rates than those in the US.
Total of 7 pages for me. Go in your forum settings, I think you can go 40 posts per page.
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