Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Everyone believes in something. Some believe in the divine, others believe in ideology. In the 20th century at least, secular ideology killed even more than religious belief did. There is no trend towards non-belief and there never will be. Religious dogma can be replaced with secular and the results will be just as disastrous if not more so. Priests can be replaced by scientists but in the end they serve the same purpose as far as the ruling class is concerned.
Well, what I know is that in the west, we have developed the most free, and most safe societies on earth by eschewing religion AND working hard to keep dangerous secular ideologies at bay.
The west importing Islam is like smoking cigarettes. All the evidence is there that it will give you cancer and subject you to a slow, agonizing death. Islam is the same. It invades and kills its hosts and renders them theocracies. And yet, the Europeans and Canadians are like, "meh, it's not going to kill me NOW, so.....pass me another smoke."
Don’t be naive. When the muslims gain more political power, you’ll be surprised how quickly those “religious freedoms” can erode. Look at the muslim majority countries now and see how much freedom you really have.
Have you ever been to a Muslim majority country? I have been to several and they live in harmony with Christians. In fact, the Christian communities of the Middle East are the oldest in the world.
What scares me are the evangelical zealots who want to enact Christian sharia law in America.
Well, what I know is that in the west, we have developed the most free, and most safe societies on earth by eschewing religion AND working hard to keep dangerous secular ideologies at bay.
The west importing Islam is like smoking cigarettes. All the evidence is there that it will give you cancer and subject you to a slow, agonizing death. Islam is the same. It invades and kills its hosts and renders them theocracies. And yet, the Europeans and Canadians are like, "meh, it's not going to kill me NOW, so.....pass me another smoke."
I agree completely, even though I would be considered “liberal.”
I don’t understand why so many liberals are unable to see Islam for what it is. Liberals rightly criticize the Christian Right in this country, but the Christian Right is nowhere near as dangerous as Islam. Yes, there may be liberal/tolerant Muslims, but Islam as practiced in most Islamic countries is totally anathema to liberal values.
Maybe it’s because so many liberals confuse concern about a dangerous ideology with hate and xenophobia?
Islam will definitely come up against liberalism. They are ideologically diametrically opposite on things like homosexuality and women’s rights. My oh my, what will the muslim-loving white liberals do then?
Run back to Christianity? (which will look a whole lot more tolerant compared to Islam)
Run back? Most liberals are already Christians or identify with it despite of Christian views of sexual immorality. Just because they support the 1st amendment does not mean they need to run someplace.
I agree completely, even though I would be considered “liberal.”
I don’t understand why so many liberals are unable to see Islam for what it is. Liberals rightly criticize the Christian Right in this country, but the Christian Right is nowhere near as dangerous as Islam. Yes, there may be liberal/tolerant Muslims, but Islam as practiced in most Islamic countries is totally anathema to liberal values.
Maybe it’s because so many liberals confuse concern about a dangerous ideology with hate and xenophobia?
Here's an even funnier thing. The republicans got the Christian base all worried about the Mexicans, when in reality, it's Canada we should be worried about. I've met more followers of the true Christian bible from South of the border than the north.
I agree completely, even though I would be considered “liberal.”
I don’t understand why so many liberals are unable to see Islam for what it is. Liberals rightly criticize the Christian Right in this country, but the Christian Right is nowhere near as dangerous as Islam. Yes, there may be liberal/tolerant Muslims, but Islam as practiced in most Islamic countries is totally anathema to liberal values.
Maybe it’s because so many liberals confuse concern about a dangerous ideology with hate and xenophobia?
Yep, well put. As we have a record # of Islamic attacks in this country, many on the Left try to down play and underscore the attacks on us. Barrack Obama's categorizing Nidal Hassan's Terrorist attack as "Work place" Violence is a perfect example. Hasan Admitted it was a Terrorist attack, was screaming Allah Akbar as he was killing Americans, and Obama calls it anything but a Terrorist attack. Yeah, work place violence
Here's an even funnier thing. The republicans got the Christian base all worried about the Mexicans, when in reality, it's Canada we should be worried about. I've met more followers of the true Christian bible from South of the border than the north.
Nice try but that's not an either/or type of situation.
Don’t be naive. When the muslims gain more political power, you’ll be surprised how quickly those “religious freedoms” can erode. Look at the muslim majority countries now and see how much freedom you really have.
You mean like they have already under Trump? Religious freedom cuts both ways. Christians aren't the only people who deserve religious freedom.
Well, then I guess all the conservatives with good "family values," and especially those who complain about immigration, should be having more kids, then. Get cracking! This "liberal" "feminist" has already done her part.
Have you ever been to a Muslim majority country? I have been to several and they live in harmony with Christians. In fact, the Christian communities of the Middle East are the oldest in the world.
What scares me are the evangelical zealots who want to enact Christian sharia law in America.
Now you're just full of crap. The Christian population in Arabia has been falling consistently. Persecution of Christians in the Muslim world is endemic.
Same thing with Jewish populations in the Middle East. And in Europe, a rise in anti-semitism is tied DIRECTLY to newcomers from the Middle East and Africa.
But go on. Tell us about how "Christian Sharia" is a real thing.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
