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For all those who claim that violence is only an antifa sort of thing:
"A 26-year-old white man who attempted to commit a terror attack on an Amtrak train in rural Nebraska also attended the doomed “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August on the white supremacist side, according to a court document.
St. Charles, Missouri resident Taylor Michael Wilson has been charged with an attempt to commit terror by targeting an Amtrak train in southwest Nebraska in October 2017. FBI Special Agent Monte Czaplewski, writing in an affidavit attached to the criminal complaint, suggested that Wilson wanted to murder black people. The document suggests that he had weapons, as well as a National Socialist Movement (NSM) business card with him at the time he was arrested.
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"National Socialist Movement" business card? Socialists are not "right-wing." Neo-Nazi's are left-wing, not right-wing. Socialism is identified with the Left. The Nazis were the "National Socialist Party."
Please define, "alt-right." Sounds to me like "alt-right" is synonymous with "left-wing;" i.e., the opposite of "right-wing."
I think you people, who want to connect President Trump somehow to "alt-right" and "neo-Nazis," need to learn some history.
And, by the way, "progressives," which Democrats like to call themselves, are "Marxist-socialists."
As is my usual custom with incidents like this one, I've begun by searching the three most prominent general-interest "railfan" sites -- railroad.net, trainsmag.com, and trainorders.com; as of 6:30 AM EST his morning, there is no mention of this incident on any of the three.
To provide a little background -- Amtrak offers one daily schedule in each direction between Chicago and Oakland, via Denver and Salt Lake City. East of Denver, the service utilizes the Burlington Northern Santa Fe (former Chicago, Burlington and Quincy) main line (same one used in 1934 for a dawn-to-dusk Denver-Chicago run as a publicity gesture). Once you pass Lincoln going west, there is no traffic base between there and Denver, save for a few small towns; train crews change at McCook, NE, and have for many years.
Amtrak patronage by African-Americans is somewhat above the national average, but mostly on the Chicago-New Orleans and Eastern Seaboard corridors; not so much in the rural west, where many small communities have no alternative, save possibly for a single bus departure.
So what might have actually happened?; hard to tell until more is learned. Diesel-electric locomotives are not easy to start up and shut down, so the engines are kept running even when idling at a yard or service facility. "Keys" -- as an increasingly-unfamiliar public understands them -- often aren't used, or left with the loco; too easily lost in a large pool of equipment. But to actually move a standing train, a person would have to release the air brakes (two systems -- one for the loco, a second for the train) open the throttle -- each of the eight "notches" (power levels) one at a time, and get around any additional technical safeguards specific to the motive power and/or the railroad.
But at this point, we don't even know the specific circumstances under which this individual was recognized, and presumably confronted.
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These people have absolutely NOTHING to do with Republicans, nor Right leaning ideals. Nice try Newsweek, another ultra progressive, propaganda tabloid. I didn't realize they were still around. I guess the two people that still read them work there.
These people have absolutely NOTHING to do with Republicans, nor Right leaning ideals. Nice try Newsweek, another ultra progressive, propaganda tabloid. I didn't realize they were still around. I guess the two people that still read them work there.
To be fair, when news broke that the Scalise shooter was a far-left psychopath, many conservatives took that an ran with it, saying that liberals were violent and dangerous.
So if one considers themselves fair and reasonable, than it is only right to allow the OP (although falsely) to push their agenda about some republicans being violent the same way.
For people with common sense and half a brain cell, it is a well known fact that most everyone in America is non-violent when it comes to politics. There is a small amount of extremist crazies on both the left and the right that would actually go as far as to use violence to express their political beliefs. I'm pretty sure everyone here is an adult and aware of that.
FWIW, details of the incident are now being brought to light -- courtesy of the responsible journalists at the Omaha World-Herald, rather than the teenyboppers at Newsweek:
There remains a popular misconception, probably fed more by old films and cartoons, that rail passengers can easily stop a moving train by pulling an overhead cord; in reality this is only possible via a conductor's radio, or probably, by an emergency stop system located in the "crew car" on long distance Amtrak moves.
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The article quoted here says that Wilson stopped the train by pulling the emergency brake. You are saying that this is not possible. So what happened? Did he in fact stop the train? If so, how did he do it? And how did he gain access to the locomotive to "play with the controls"?
What I theorized was that Wilson stopped the train by use of an emergency-stop mechanism accessible from the crew quarters -- these are usually not locked, and in fact, I'm aware of a couple of incidents where crew members have "appropriated" private rooms intended for paying passengers; Not a common occurrence, but it can happen in winter months when patronage is light.
Wilson was fund in the rear of the two locomotives, apparently "playing with the controls"; multiple-unit "lash-ups" of Diesel and/or electric locomotives are controlled from a single instrument panel, designated by the engineer, and obviously assigned to the front loco in this case.
So what we appear to have here is a typically-disoriented wannabee lone-white-male loser -- hardly a well-organized effort.
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FWIW, details of the incident are now being brought to light -- courtesy of the responsible journalists at the Omaha World-Herald, rather than the teenyboppers at Newsweek:
There remains a popular misconception, probably fed more by old films and cartoons, that rail passengers can easily stop a moving train by pulling an overhead cord; in reality this is only possible via a conductor's radio, or probably, by an emergency stop system located in the "crew car" on long distance Amtrak moves.
So what we appear to have here is a typically-disoriented wannabee lone-white-male loser -- hardly a well-organized effort.
The article quoted here says that Wilson stopped the train by pulling the emergency brake. You are saying that this is not possible. So what happened? Did he in fact stop the train? If so, how did he do it? And how did he gain access to the locomotive to "play with the controls"?
St. Charles, Missouri resident Taylor Michael Wilson has been charged with an attempt to commit terror by targeting an Amtrak train in southwest Nebraska in October 2017. FBI Special Agent Monte Czaplewski, writing in an affidavit attached to the criminal complaint, suggested that Wilson wanted to murder black people. The document suggests that he had weapons, as well as a National Socialist Movement (NSM) business card with him at the time he was arrested.
National Socialist Movement ??
How is a socialist alt-right? Other than some people want to link racism to the right?
However people work that out in their minds... I expect 10-15% on the right and left are of the extreme nature.
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