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Old 01-06-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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Trump and followers have an obvious disdain for intelligence and education.
So, this top advisor during the obama admin...he told obama that the "science is settled" that intelligence and education?

Seems the left and the obama boot lickers are easily fooled....
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Old 01-06-2018, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Back in the fifties scientists were looked at as nutty professors or the comical absent minded Professor Periwinkle from the Superman show. The launch of Sputnik was a moment where defense specialists realized that the Soviets had achieved something very important.

There will be another Sputnik like moment soon and to subscribe to the notion that science is a liberal conspiracy is a foolish, very ignorant, and very dangerous state of mind to have.
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Old 01-06-2018, 08:20 AM
 
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I dont see anyone arguing against science, just mocking the states version which is often used as a tool to implement a political agenda or scheme.
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Old 01-06-2018, 08:24 AM
 
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This sounds like code for....there's no global warming advisor milking the taxpayers out of $200K per year. Good. Let the private sector deal with this area.
Except that Trump and his cronies are rushing to gut the global environment and suppressing the federal government's efforts to stem the onslaught of climate change, while using federal tax dollars to effectively provide free insurance to pay for the consequences.

Ocean temperatures around 2 degrees F. warmer than average magnified the 2017 hurricane season.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/0...cean-questions

http://time.com/4933743/hurricane-ir...lobal-warming/

Yet the Trump apologists shout, "Great. Silence the worthless scientists."

As Floridians are discovering, climate change is real and has disastrous economic consequences, despite the efforts of Florida's Republicans to mute discussion of the issue.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...than-you-think

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...nge-solutions/

Yet, despite denials, the current Republican Florida administration, like the Trump administration, seeks to ban even the mention of climate change in official state documents.

<<DEP officials have been ordered not to use the term “climate change” or “global warming” in any official communications, emails, or reports, according to former DEP employees, consultants, volunteers and records obtained by the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting....

Scott’s predecessor, Charlie Crist, had been proactive on climate change, forming a statewide task force and convening a national summit in Miami in 2007. But evidence the issue has fallen out of favor during the Scott administration is apparent.

One example is the Florida Oceans and Coastal Council’s Annual Research Plan, put together by DEP and other state agencies. The 2009-2010 report, published the year before Scott was elected, contains 15 references to climate change, including a section titled “Research Priorities — Climate Change.”

In the 2014-15 edition of the report, climate change is only mentioned if it is in the title of a past report or conference. There is one standalone reference to the issue at the end of a sentence that sources say must have slipped by the censors. “It’s a distinct possibility,” said one former DEP employee.

Instead, terms like “climate drivers” and “climate-driven changes” are used.>>

In Florida, officials ban term 'climate change' | Miami Herald

With what we've learned about Russian involvement in the American social media, I wonder if all of the anti-scientist posts are being made by ideological dullards, or by Russian trolls (where Putin with his fossil fuel dependent economy shares Republican disdain for climate change science), or even by hired trolls of American fossil fuel interests.

It's amazing to me that Americans of any stripe would suppress the advice of the best and the brightest among us, but then again Donald Trump is President.

I just wish the rest of the nation would stop writing checks to states like Florida for hundreds of billions for rebuilding after hurricanes. If Republicans believe in the private sector, and having local burdens paid for locally (limiting the federal deduction of state and local taxes), why don't states pay for their own hurricane rebuilding? Wouldn't this discourage lax building codes and zoning laws, and a more robust infrastructure, and even eliminate the self-denial about climate change before it's too late?

Over $2 billion of relief for Florida citrus farmers, likely wealthy landowners? Hasn't anybody in Florida heard of private insurance?

Florida growers' wait for disaster money continues

Given the warming ocean temperatures (the oceans around Florida and in the Gulf were 2 degrees higher than the long-term average at the time of this year's hurricanes), it's inevitable that the Florida citrus industry will continue to face destruction. Why should this one industry be singled out for federal aid?

Of course, a climate change scientist advising Trump might point out the waste of money in resisting the forces of nature, and no good Republican wants their hypocritical greed machine interrupted by logic. Heaven forbid that Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort wouldn't be eligible for federal relief if devastated by a hurricane.

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Old 01-06-2018, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Ya, so...ok.....the last guy who was there, is he the one who told obama that "the science is settled"?

And as it appears, you believe that....just as all you other buddies in this thread...
Just because you don't understand the science behind certain things doesn't mean they don't exist. I've never studied quantum physics so my understanding of it is lacking but that doesn't mean the principles aren't sound.

As far as man made global warming; the evidence that has been collected by climate scientists strongly indicate that it is happening right now. But that's another thread.
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Old 01-06-2018, 08:54 AM
 
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Just because you don't understand the science behind certain things doesn't mean they don't exist. I've never studied quantum physics so my understanding of it is lacking but that doesn't mean the principles aren't sound.

As far as man made global warming; the evidence that has been collected by climate scientists strongly indicate that it is happening right now. But that's another thread.
I understand very clearly that there is someone completing that mission for YOUR president because you don't have the mental capability to understand that, is not anyone's fault but your own.

It's completely ignorant to think because the agency does not have someone at the top that the mission stops within that agency....

There is no doubt that man made global warming is happening, it's not happening at the break neck speed the left want you to believe.....
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Old 01-06-2018, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I understand very clearly that there is someone completing that mission for YOUR president because you don't have the mental capability to understand that, is not anyone's fault but your own.

It's completely ignorant to think because the agency does not have someone at the top that the mission stops within that agency....

There is no doubt that man made global warming is happening, it's not happening at the break neck speed the left want you to believe.....
So you do finally concede man made global warming is real. Good. Not sure anyone is contesting the speed. That's a new one on me. However, we do have charts that show the progress.

https://www.google.com/search?q=glob...ZSJu8GcUUEF8M:
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Old 01-06-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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This is an inexcusable and DANGEROUS case of indifference, incompetence and neglect on the part of Trump and his administration:

<<After almost a year in office, President Trump has yet to name a science adviser and director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. Since World War II, no American president has shown greater disdain for science — or more lack of awareness of its likely costs....

The director of the office, who is nominated by the president and requires Senate approval, typically serves as the president’s science adviser, providing him with confidential, unbiased counsel. Much of what the federal government does and the many policy changes the president and his appointees are now making or hope to make have scientific and technological underpinnings....

Today, the O.S.T.P. maintains only a skeleton staff led by the deputy chief technology officer, Michael Kratsios, a technologically inexperienced Silicon Valley financier holding just a bachelor’s degree in political science. The posts of deputy director and four congressionally mandated associate directors remain vacant.>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/o...pgtype=article

The problem may be that no reputable scientists want to be associated with Trump and his administration.
He don't need no stinkin' science advisor ... he only needs monetary advisors.

So he packs his cabinet with Wall Street, and we all know the rest ...
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Old 01-06-2018, 10:37 AM
 
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What? And become hateful liberals who hang out at Starbucks with our cups of organic coffee with a blast of soy, triple foam with *** milk while planning a rally to promote pedophile appreciation month while giggling over witch one pays their illegal alien housekeeper the least..yeah..no thanks
Uh.....


What?
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Old 01-06-2018, 10:40 AM
 
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So you do finally concede man made global warming is real. Good. Not sure anyone is contesting the speed. That's a new one on me. However, we do have charts that show the progress.

https://www.google.com/search?q=glob...ZSJu8GcUUEF8M:
Trump also believes in human caused global warming. He also believes in money and power and we see he has a price.

The deal is: fight against climate science on behalf of the party ... and that is what he does.

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